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ML for Jabber ?

 [1/6] from: jason::cunliffe::verizon::net at: 11-Jan-2004 21:15


> Andreas wrote: > > ...whereas with XAML you could just write:
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> Button "OK" > ]
Lovely example :-) Has anyone use ML dialect for creating Jabber messages ? thanks - Jason<

 [2/6] from: AJMartin:orcon at: 24-Jan-2004 11:47


Jason wrote:
> Has anyone used ML dialect for creating Jabber messages ?
What do Jabber messages look like in XML? :) Once I know that I can show you how it works out in ML dialect. -- Andrew J Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://www.rebol.it/Valley/ http://valley.orcon.net.nz/ http://Valley.150m.com/

 [3/6] from: jason:cunliffe:verizon at: 11-Jan-2004 23:31


> What do Jabber messages look like in XML? :) Once I know that I can show
you
> how it works out in ML dialect.
hmm... I have a couple of books which describe them well, but to my surprise can't find a concise searchable Jabber message dictionary online.. But there is the formal IETF XMPP [Jabber] definition which is pretty thorough and does have plenty of examples: http://www.jabber.org/ietf/draft-ietf-xmpp-core-21.html The main site for jabber anything is http://jabber.org The best known Jabber book is Programming Jabber - Extending XML Messaging By DJ Adams. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/jabber/ O'Reilly have a good online sample chapter which may be the most readable example I can point you to http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/jabber/chapter/ch05.html And I just bought a copy of a truly excellent new book Jabber Developer's Handbook by William Wright, Dana Moore http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0672325365/102-4900500-1183360?v=glance Jabber is designed to pass developer complexity to the server, which is based on a cool plug-in architecture. The advantage passes to the client applications as these are very easy to write. Although it is based on a client-sever architecture, Jabber does an excellent job of creating peer-peer messaging and presence. Also there is support for many permutations including server-server. So networks of Jabber server nodes are expected, with prejudice to the end clients. A Jabber session is actually just one long XML message. You might say its design philosophy is "it ain't over till it's over". So Jabber sessions are opened and closed by <stream><> tags. Within those are a series of well defined xml chunks. Servers and clients filter and react to these chunks, parsing or by-passing their nodes attributes and contents. There is already a nice Rebol/View client for Jabber by Nicolas Fournier: Maoww 1.06b http://www.rebolfrance.net/projets/concours/maoww.zip There are a list of Jabber Enhancement Proposals or JEP, modeled after the Python PEP collaborative developer pattern. They make for some good reading also and are fill of examples. http://www.jabber.org/protocol/ ML Dialect is a great fit for Jabber I suspect. I don't know how hard it would be to build a good Jabber server in Rebol. A first project would presumably be a server extension. On the client side it is much easier and invisible tools in rebol could jabber enable web sites. ML would no doubt be very useful there. I guess what one really needs is the inverse of ML - easy to- use parsing dialect for Jabber messages so they can be routed and/or events triggered. I welcome any suggestions you have about this thanks - Jason

 [4/6] from: jason:cunliffe:verizon at: 12-Jan-2004 0:56


> What do Jabber messages look like in XML? :) Once I know that I can show
you
> how it works out in ML dialect.
Where to get ML and what do I need to do know to get started to using it? thanks - Jason

 [5/6] from: bry:itnisk at: 12-Jan-2004 13:35


Assuming that you have a jabber server, running on port 5222 installed on a server named APACHES you can get to it over telnet and send the following: <stream:stream to='apaches' xmlns='jabber:client' xmlns:stream='http://etherx.jabber.org/streams'> this will return <?xml version='1.0'?> <stream:stream xmlns:stream='http://etherx.jabber.org/streams' id='{you jabber server returns a random id here}' xmlns='jabber:client' from='apaches'> notice that these are not well formed xml streams, they become well formed when you close the streams by sending </stream:stream> at which point the server sends </stream:stream> I don't know if ML can handle not well formed streams like that?

 [6/6] from: AJMartin:orcon at: 24-Jan-2004 11:47


Jason wrote:
> Where to get ML and what do I need to do know to get started to using it?
I've sent a reply to you directly, containing all you need, along with a copy for Gerard. -- Andrew J Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://www.rebol.it/Valley/ http://valley.orcon.net.nz/ http://Valley.150m.com/
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