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Treepad?

 [1/10] from: learned::talentsinc::net at: 27-Sep-2001 21:20


As I learn more about REBOL, it seems ideal for creating an information repository tool, similar to treepad, ( http://www.treepad.com ), but easily extensible. I'm curious if anyone has undertaken anything like that yet. --- G. Edw. Learned ( [learned--talentsinc--net] ) (Never apply a Star Trek Solution to a Babylon 5 Problem)

 [2/10] from: al:bri:xtra at: 28-Sep-2001 17:46


G. Edw. Learned wrote:
> As I learn more about REBOL, it seems ideal for creating an information
repository tool, similar to treepad, ( http://www.treepad.com ), but easily extensible. I'm curious if anyone has undertaken anything like that yet. I had a look. It's nice. Its main feature is the tree information repository which is stored all in one file, so I believe. I think just using directories with long files, eText, WML and HTML dialects and Rebol scripts, Windows explorer and standard text editors, one can achieve similar results, including being able to use a WAP phone remotely. Andrew Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://zen.scripterz.org

 [3/10] from: robert:muench:robertmuench at: 28-Sep-2001 11:24


> -----Original Message----- > From: [rebol-bounce--rebol--com] [mailto:[rebol-bounce--rebol--com]]On Behalf Of
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> repository tool, similar to treepad, ( http://www.treepad.com ), but easily > extensible. I'm curious if anyone has undertaken anything like that yet.
Hi, I'm thinking about such a thing but no action taken yet. What I don't like is the tree concept, it's to restrictive. A net (graph) approach is IMO a better way to go. Than it's possible to store one file at several different nodes once. This makes live easier as you might use a different entry point to the graph depending on the information you want to find/access etc. Did you had a look at http://www.thebrain.com already? Robert

 [4/10] from: ammoncooke:ya:hoo at: 28-Sep-2001 5:08


You sparked a thought. If you want a truly 100% flexible system consider this: AmiDE (Amiga Digital Environment), designed to replace every OS, has a unique file system. Its basic features are these: It has no *folders* (drawers if you are an Amigan). I has queries. files reside on the disk, not in folders. On creation of a 'file' you have the option of naming multiple catagories (you must name at least one). For example I am creating a REBOL script, It is for a particular customer, so add the customer as the primary catagory, it is also a REBOL Script, I want it in the REBOL Scripts catagory. Now that gives me full access to the same script from two different locations. It allows me to find what I am looking for either by querying all of the REBOL Scripts, or by querying the company name. ;) Isn't it beautiful? HTH! Ammon PS if you want more detailed information: http://www.amiga.com/press/zine/4-17-00/AW7.htm

 [5/10] from: slok00:ya:hoo at: 28-Sep-2001 6:25


--- "Robert M. Muench" <[robert--muench--robertmuench--de]> wrote:
<snip> > Hi, I'm thinking about such a thing but no action
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> etc. Did you had a look at > http://www.thebrain.com already? Robert
I am personally using theBrain. Manage lots of my files and some thoughts associated with it.

 [6/10] from: learned:talentsinc at: 28-Sep-2001 9:57


Yes I have...I really like that concept as well...it's sort of a cross between a neural net and a mindmap. Another starting point I've considered is just a series of notes, each with keywords attached. When adding a note, you could select the keywords from an existing list, or add new ones, and have multple keys for each note. This could then easily be expanded into The Brain concept, by building relationships among the keywords. Another thought is to go more along the pure mindmapping style, ala MindMan. The thing I like about starting something like this in REBOL, is that you could actually make the articles themselves text files if desired, and use rebol to tie them together...that means favorite editors could be used, externally to create things and then tie them into the web. Just idle thoughts at this point...I was hoping there might be some initial work out there to start studying. --On Friday, September 28, 2001 11:24 AM +0200 "Robert M. Muench" <[robert--muench--robertmuench--de]> wrote:
>> -----Original Message----- >> From: [rebol-bounce--rebol--com] [mailto:[rebol-bounce--rebol--com]]On Behalf Of
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> [rebol-request--rebol--com] with "unsubscribe" in the > subject, without the quotes.
--- G. Edw. Learned - [learned--talentsinc--net] (Never apply a Star Trek Solution to a Babylon Five Problem)

 [7/10] from: learned:talentsinc at: 28-Sep-2001 10:02


Yes, that is what I'd love as an information repository. --On Friday, September 28, 2001 5:08 AM -0700 Ammon Cooke <[ammoncooke--yahoo--com]> wrote:
> You sparked a thought. If you want a truly 100% flexible system consider > this:
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> [rebol-request--rebol--com] with "unsubscribe" in the > subject, without the quotes.
--- G. Edw. Learned - [learned--talentsinc--net] (Never apply a Star Trek Solution to a Babylon Five Problem)

 [8/10] from: ryanc:iesco-dms at: 28-Sep-2001 9:39


Underneath the hood it sounds like a good way to handle it, but it does not seem a sensible methodology at this time if you are unable to classify the categories to produce a tree (of some sort). Tree's are just an excellent way to classify things for a graphical world. Although such an approach does make sense with less limited interfaces, such as voice or keyboard. --Ryan Ammon Cooke wrote:
> You sparked a thought. If you want a truly 100% flexible system consider > this:
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> [rebol-request--rebol--com] with "unsubscribe" in the > subject, without the quotes.
-- Ryan Cole Programmer Analyst www.iesco-dms.com 707-468-5400

 [9/10] from: robert:muench:robertmuench at: 29-Sep-2001 11:36


> -----Original Message----- > From: [rebol-bounce--rebol--com] [mailto:[rebol-bounce--rebol--com]]On Behalf Of
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> files reside on the disk, not in folders. On creation of a 'file' you have > the option of naming multiple catagories (you must name at least one).
Hi, sounds very interesting! Well the next step would be to be able to derive categories automatically. I'm thinking for a solution for a long time as I have a personal knowledge-base. It's a very simple (but efficient) system I use at the moment: I have a directory with several subdirectories like web, xml, graphs/pathfinding etc. Than I use a full-text indexer on this directory to get an index. That's it! The only work I have to do once is, to find an appropriate directory to put the data in... Robert

 [10/10] from: doublec:acc at: 1-Oct-2001 9:30


> It has no *folders* (drawers if you are an Amigan). I has queries.
The BeOS has this system as well. It has directories like normal but you can have queries that create 'virtual folders'. They look like directories but the contents are any file that matches the query. The query can be quite complex. So you can have a directory containing all email messages with sender [rebol-list--rebol--com] for example, to get a directory containing all emails from this mailing list. Quite neat. Chris. http://www.double.co.nz/dylan

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