"BeOS" and Palm

[1/13] from: ryan:christiansen:intellisol at: 17-Aug-2001 10:28

As someone pointed out earlier, Palm purchased all of Be, Inc.'s, intellectual property, which includes the BeOS and BeIA. Palm has already stated they do not plan to continue developing the BeOS. Here is the current situation: 1. REBOL runs on BeOS. 2. BeIA will run on Palm (i.e. BeIA will be PalmOS) 3. REBOL does not run on BeIA (BeIA includes better networking stack, etc.) So what has to be done? REBOL Technologies needs to contact Palm about porting REBOL to the BeIA/PalmOS platform. Then we can all begin making some real money writing applications for Palm handheld devices. Ryan C. Christiansen Web Developer Intellisol International 4733 Amber Valley Parkway Fargo, ND 58104 701-235-3390 ext. 6671 FAX: 701-235-9940 http://www.intellisol.com Global Leader in People Performance Software _____________________________________ Confidentiality Notice This message may contain privileged and confidential information. If you think, for any reason, that this message may have been addressed to you in error, you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it, and we would ask you to notify us immediately by return email to [ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com]

[2/13] from: ralph:abooks at: 17-Aug-2001 11:49

Amen, brother! I have long dreamed of REBOL on the Palm platform. It is so PERFECT in concept (as opposed to being technically feasible<g>). --ralph

[3/13] from: ryanc:iesco-dms at: 17-Aug-2001 9:23

I am sure we will be seeing it soon. [ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com] wrote:

> As someone pointed out earlier, Palm purchased all of Be, Inc.'s, > intellectual property, which includes the BeOS and BeIA. Palm has already

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[4/13] from: ryanc:iesco-dms at: 17-Aug-2001 9:44

This is actually significantly great news! If RT scoots on this, they could be premier development system for the new Palm OS. This could RT's big break. --Ryan Ryan Cole wrote:

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[5/13] from: chrismorency:videotron:ca at: 17-Aug-2001 22:19

Hi, What about Rebol on eZaurus w/Amiga/DE ? I would prefer that to writing Rebol code with Graffiti ! At least the eZaurus will have an embedded physical keyboard. What we would really need is Rebol/View on a handheld, being anything from Palm to WindowsCE to Amiga/DE... but it would really be great ! Chris

[6/13] from: belymt:saunalahti:fi at: 18-Aug-2001 5:48

At 22:19 17.8.2001 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi,

Hi.. (no I have not forgottten Rebol. I still hope to use it some day.. )

>What about Rebol on eZaurus w/Amiga/DE ? I would prefer that to writing >Rebol code with Graffiti ! At least the eZaurus will have an embedded >physical keyboard.

To best of my knowledge there is already Rebol port to Taos Intent/Elate (system behind DE) so it should work.. I have not downloaded it for testing though (I purchased DE SDK some time a�go).

>What we would really need is Rebol/View on a handheld, being anything from >Palm to WindowsCE to Amiga/DE... but it would really be great !

Old palms are too small.. new ones (not yet made) are unknownts.. And... Remember.. Sharp Zaurus is the first released DE running machine.. :) Joanna PS: Pitty to see BeOS go, it was nice.... I hope it gives Palm some good inspiration.

[7/13] from: kenneth:nwinet at: 18-Aug-2001 1:38

> Palm has already stated they do not plan to continue developing the BeOS.

A very prudent statement considering they are a $2B company vs. a $330B company. But even at that, $2B gives them much deeper pockets than Be ever had. So even though the obvious reason for the purchase was to gain multimedia capabilities, is it possible by any stretch of the imagination, that they would put some effort into marketing BeOS on the desktop? Just my idealistic hope that technical excellence could one day overcome market realities. Ken.

[8/13] from: chris:starforge at: 18-Aug-2001 9:40

On 18-Aug-01, Ken Anthony wrote:

> Just my idealistic hope that technical excellence could one day overcome > market realities.

Ah, so it's you who is trying to breed those flying pigs is it? Or have I got you mixed up with someone else? Chris -- .------{ http://www.starforge.co.uk }-----. .---------------------------. =[ Explorer2260, Designer and Coder \=\ P: TexMaker, ROACH, site \ =[___You_will_obey_your_corporate_masters___]==[ Stack: EETmTmTRRSS------- ] Never hit a man with glasses. Hit him with a baseball bat.

[9/13] from: chaz:innocent at: 18-Aug-2001 3:34

I am looking forward to your Rebol/View Reb site. I'm kind of hoping the world wide reb might become the next generation napster. chaz At 05:48 AM 8/18/01 +0300, you wrote:

[10/13] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 18-Aug-2001 13:29

Hi, I think that Holger is the person responsible/dedicated to Amiga ports. I am not sure how /Core is done for Elate, but I wonder how "fast" is that going to be. I don't expect RT coding it in native VP code. Rebol for AmigaDE is the same as Rebol for Java - it would bring us to some platforms we currently don't run under. On the other hand, - if AmigaDE is not native to the platform (and as far as Zaurus is concerned, - it is not), it is simply hosted and it means that that Rebol is direct competitor to AmigaDE here. RT however has a little different business model, although I know very little about it :-) RT needs money and money come from corporate sphere. View engine lacks few capabilities, as some native engine to text formatting (e.g. separate specification via dialect, not mixed with text itself), and probably proper font engine. IIRC QNX and Intent use Bitstream, - probably the best one on the market ... But ... I think that we will get there one day. It just needs time, or so I believe it :-) As I expressed to Carl - REBOL OS would be probably the nicest OS ever created - VID coding is very soul pleasant :-). Dialects are cool - still ONE language, while concentrating on domain specific expressions .... Cheers, -pekr-

[11/13] from: g:santilli:tiscalinet:it at: 18-Aug-2001 14:22

Hello Petr! On 18-Ago-01, you wrote: PK> I think that Holger is the person responsible/dedicated to PK> Amiga ports. I am not sure how /Core is done for Elate, but I PK> wonder how "fast" is that going to be. I don't expect RT PK> coding it in native VP code. When I tried it (one year ago, I think), it was 25% slower than the linux version. When translated, it was bigger too (300k vs 200k IIRC). Regards, Gabriele. -- Gabriele Santilli <[giesse--writeme--com]> - Amigan - REBOL programmer Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila -- http://www.amyresource.it/AGI/

[12/13] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 18-Aug-2001 15:28

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriele Santilli" <[g--santilli--tiscalinet--it]> To: <[rebol-list--rebol--com]> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 2:22 PM Subject: [REBOL] Re: "BeOS" and Palm

> Hello Petr! > On 18-Ago-01, you wrote:

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> the linux version. When translated, it was bigger too (300k vs > 200k IIRC).

Hmm, that's not all that bad, is it? /View figures would be more interesting though :-) -pekr-

[13/13] from: kenneth::nwinet::com at: 18-Aug-2001 7:30

> Ah, so it's you who is trying to breed those flying pigs is it? Or have I > got you mixed up with someone else? > > Chris

Hey, ya just hit a guy with glasses. As I walk around dazed and confused I mumble... ...nor toasters... ...screensavers what a waste of cpu time... ...then of course theres [seti--come]... Proves my point! Cheers.

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