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Try doing a search for "pfe", or maile me and I'll send a copy... Or you could install the Windows version of Emacs :) Chris -- .------{ http://www.starforge.co.uk }-----. .--------------------------. =[ Explorer2260, Designer and Coder \=\ P: TexMaker, ROACH, site \ =[___You_will_obey_your_corporate_masters___]==[ Stack: EETmTmTRRSS------ ]

Rod Gaither Oak Ridge, NC - USA [rgaither--triad--rr--com]

Definitely! I used ConText which is (of course :-) ) free, but a bit sluggish (Pentium MMX 233, 96 MEG RAM) and not overly customizable to my taste. Zeus is although (almost) free, it is very Windows-ish in its functionality and behavior. Ultraedit is commercial, TextPad is (AFAIK) too. gVIM is far from the puritanity of vi: it has real GUI, you can bind standard Windows keys if you like (Ctrl-X, -V etc.), supports wheel mouse, has incredible customizability and automation support (its numeric parametrizable movement/modification commands are charm). Syntax coloring works, too. You can make 'folds' i.e. outline view with several methods :manual, indentation-dependant, markers or cleverly assembled own regex. EMACS is BIG ! gVIM 6.0 exe is just above 1 meg, EMACS is over 4 megs, not to say about the whole installation (9 megs versus 70 megs ! , although both can be further slimmed). Just to mention: Vim won this year's Linux Journal Readers' Awards (hands down) in the editor category (in the development environment category EMACS was the champion). -- Best regards, Geza Lakner MD mailto:[geza67--freestart--hu]

I like EditPad. The `Lite' version is free, and I happen to prefer it to the Pro version, which is pretty cheap anyway.

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The contrast in categories above reminds me of the old joke: EMACS is a nice operating system, but I prefer Unix. ;-) -jn- -- ; sub REBOL {}; sub head ($) {@_[0]} REBOL [] # despam: func [e] [replace replace/all e ":" "." "#" "@"] ; sub despam {my ($e) = @_; $e =~ tr/:#/.@/; return "\n$e"} print head reverse despam "moc:xedef#yleen:leoj" ;

If you're looking for a good (free) editor in Windows I highly reccommend MetaPad. Lots of nifty features and very lightweight and quick. One very useful feature is a nice GUI toolbar with the ability to link to different viewers for running code - usually Rebol.exe and IExplore.exe live here to allow for fast switching between script and html modes :) You can get MetaPad here: http://www.liquidninja.com/metapad/download.html

If you were putting your Grandma to a torture to hack some REBOL (or any other) coding in TextPad - alas, go on ! :-)))

Just my 2(-3..) cents: 1. With zz you won't be out ... zz is moving the cursor line in the middle of the screen, ZZ will exit. 2. Vi keystrokes are optimised for typing-in speed although you can put some ideology behind them, e.g. ZZ is "sleeping" (in the cartoon sense) OR ZZ as being "omega" the very last letter (augmented by its duplication) in the alphabet, thus the end (OK, I admit, it is twisted ;-) ) . EMACS peruses the shift keys (shift/alt/control) in double/triple constantly shifted keystrokes to access the multitude of its functions. It _has_ to do this way, because it is essentially a stateless (simplistically, always insert mode) editor. Vi(m) on the other hand is a stateful editor thus simple keystrokes might suffice. Although I played piano several years - thus I ought to happily push 3-4-5 simultaneous keys with critical precision ;-) , I couldn't grasp EMACS's key combinations with my fingers. 3. Everybody should use that editor/programming language/OS/office suite etc.etc. which suits his needs, feels (almost) natural. Both EMACS and Vi(m) are powerful and great tools, both are admittedly esoteric - having their own philosophy - but both offer tremendous functionality and editing speed in relation to ANY Windows-native (Windows-"level"...) editors to the "engaged".

Narrata refero ... in pectore :-) -- Best regards, Geza mailto:[geza67--freestart--hu]

Do you mean easyVIM ? Well, even a 1 meg big EXE eVIM beats in a hiss some native Windows editors although without modes you won't get the créme á la créme of gVIM's wealthy functionality.

Would you post it (or send it to me), please. Have you solved the syntax coloring problem regarding pairs (only the first 00 of a 00x00 gets highlighted) and that keywords may contain almost anything (with the bundled rebol.vim, the highlight halts e.g. at the first "-" character :-( ) ?

Well, I admit, I started my XEmacs studies a few weeks ago and converted last week to gVIM after giving up endless hours of reading the first half of the user manual ;-) I confess, with gVIM I felt _almost_ promptly at home - the major key bindings (e.g. clipboard operations and movement commands) were the accustomed Windows-ish ones ;-) and the deeper / trickier commands much more accessible for me than the XEmacs way.

Well, it is a definite plus and I respect Lisp a lot: undoubtedly it is the most founded programming language of all - at least in the mathematical sense. But ... if you have fully customized your Xemacs to your taste the Lisp adventure ends. How could you use Elisp further? Let's say, you write very good applications with it (Xemacs allows you to put even graphical widgets in the editing window!) - now what - you distribute the 30meg XEmacs install kit to your some 10K Elisp source code ? Nevertheless, I find Lisp mentally challenging but while you hunt the missing braces down ;-) a REBOL five-liner already did the dirty job ...

REBOL was eager to inherit several aspects of Scheme, a newer Lisp dialect. Whereas Scheme/Lisp is strict (lexical scoping e.g.), REBOL is "lazy" (OK, let's say just: different ;-)) ) - it is not as clean as the lambda calculus itself but is elegant and first of all powerful enough yet.

Seen - Tried - NOT _Bought_ . There are so many free AND/OR free_source_ editors around ... Happy VIMming and REBOLing ! -- Best regards, Geza Lakner MD mailto:[geza67--freestart--hu]

Dr. Chips: http://users.erols.com/astronaut/

http://www.johnsons-web.com/rebol.vim (syntax.vim may have to be hacked with regards to the 'rexx switch. I have added some more 'words since, but shouldn't be a problem for you.)

Sorry, haven't dealt with that. I use /core only

My way of supporting another businessman

.. and BTW, my preference for vim has a lot to do with Bram Moolenar's philosophy - somewhat like mine.

Yes. It appears that some healers are also programmers! :>) Regards -- Tim Johnson <[tim--johnsons-web--com]> http://www.johnsons-web.com

Maybe when I get a breath, I look at the syntax file to overcome this problem.

I am a man not in business :-) plus living in an ex-Eastern European country (see the e-mail domain for details :-) ) where living is not (yet) a _L_iving ;-) thus FSF, GNU and other three-letter abbreviations' (free) products help against an another three-letter abbreviation (...BSA) joint a two-letter-abbrev. (...MS...).

May I ask what is Bram's philosophy (if it is not so intimate with yours ... :-) ) ? I just mailed to the VIM-list and asked for help in a compilation problem and Bram answered almost _promptly_ with Patch 6-0-028 ... it happened just a few hours ago - I felt deeply touched upon his fast feedback. Oh, God, only if REBOL were having such a rapid turnover time ;-))

Not just love is a many-splendoured thing :-) -- Best regards, Geza mailto:[geza67--freestart--hu]

In vim type :help uganda<Enter>

What's my idea of a "killer app"? Not a killer, a lifesaver. See http://www.frozen-north-linuxonline.com/pastIssues/issue5vol1.html proceed to The Message is the Medium: Social-Service-Dot-Bombs and Killer Apps (written 1-Sep-2001)

Sounds like Bram all right. One step at a time..... One user at a time.

RT is looking for the Brass Ring, the Gold Strike IMHO. I can't complain all that much though. They have given my a wonderful tool. <wink>But the folks in Uganda could care less</wink>

Regards -- Tim Johnson <[tim--johnsons-web--com]> http://www.johnsons-web.com