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Question: Move the REBOL List?

 [1/22] from: carl:rebol at: 10-Oct-2000 18:23


Dear REBOL list readers: It's great to have so much activity happening with REBOL these days. Unfortunately, our servers are overloading. We're starting to have gigabyte days. While it is good to have all this activity, it is making life difficult for a few folks around here. What would you think if we were to move this main list to a site like egroups.com? That would also give you web access to archives, file lists, and other features. Your thoughts? -Carl

 [2/22] from: alans:cuervo:stanford at: 10-Oct-2000 18:35


> Dear REBOL list readers: > > It's great to have so much activity happening with REBOL these days. Unfortunately, our servers are overloading. We're starting to have gigabyte days. While it is good to have all this activity, it is making life difficult for a few folks around here. What would you think if we were to move this main list to a site like egroups.com? That would also give you web access to archives, file lists, and other features. > > Your thoughts? > > -Carl >
Wouldn't bother me much. I'm already on egroups for a couple of other lists. (Though they do append those annoying ads...at least they stopped pasting them at the start of messages...) --Alan <[alans--cuervo--stanford--edu]>

 [3/22] from: ddalley:idirect at: 10-Oct-2000 21:37


Hello, Carl: On 11-Oct-00, [carl--rebol--com] wrote:
> We're starting to have gigabyte days.
Gigabytes days? I didn't know we were >that< active. ;^)
> What would you think if we were to move this main > list to a site like egroups.com?
I don't mind eGroups, as I am on a few lists there already. They do have some advantages, such as archives, doing polls, and digests, as you mentioned. -- ---===///||| Donald Dalley |||\\\===--- The World of AmiBroker Support http://webhome.idirect.com/~ddalley UIN/ICQ#: 65203020

 [4/22] from: assembly:whiterose at: 10-Oct-2000 21:39


On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 06:23:11PM -0700, [carl--rebol--com] wrote:
> Dear REBOL list readers: > > It's great to have so much activity happening with REBOL these days. Unfortunately, our servers are overloading. We're starting to have gigabyte days. While it is good to have all this activity, it is making life difficult for a few folks around here. What would you think if we were to move this main list to a site like egroups.com? That would also give you web access to archives, file lists, and other features. > > Your thoughts?
That would probably be best and it would let people focus on their main jobs. I have never used egroups but I know topica is fairly nice and has all the features that people would want. B.

 [5/22] from: norsepower:uswest at: 10-Oct-2000 20:25


Carl- So long as the list continues to send e-mail to the eScribe archive, I'm all for it (smart search engine there.) Also, is there any way you can make all past messages available in some kind of package? I could then update the eScribe archive with messages before July 2000. -Ryan

 [6/22] from: carl:rebol at: 10-Oct-2000 19:38


That would be good. For the archive, Scott mentioned that it is so large now that it does not fit on a CD-ROM. Perhaps if we compressed it? Scott? -Carl At 10/10/00 08:25 PM -0500, you wrote:

 [7/22] from: al:bri:xtra at: 10-Oct-2000 19:53


Carl wrote:
> What would you think if we were to move this main list to a site like
egroups.com? Fine with me. Andrew Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://members.nbci.com/AndrewMartin/

 [8/22] from: bcr19374:pegasus:cc:ucf at: 10-Oct-2000 22:49


On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 [carl--rebol--com] wrote:
> What would you think if we were to move this main list to a site like > egroups.com? >
Please move the list to egroups! I find myself interested in only a few of the messages on the list since I do not know REBOL well enough to get a lot of the messages. It would be really nice to get a digest and egroups offers that. I use a bunch of egroups lists and they are very good.

 [9/22] from: gmassar:dreamsoft at: 10-Oct-2000 20:29


Go for it! Geo... [carl--rebol--com] wrote:

 [10/22] from: tim:johnsons-web at: 10-Oct-2000 20:16


Hello: It would be great if a way were found to index ... normalize etc. the archive into a formal database. After all, this list is a tremendous asset. JMTCW Tim [carl--rebol--com] wrote:

 [11/22] from: rishi:picostar at: 10-Oct-2000 21:28


I would also prefer it on egroups. Wasn't there a list already created by the name "rebol"? If not, who is going to create it and create/maintain list? Rishi Previously, you ([Al--Bri--xtra--co--nz]) wrote:

 [12/22] from: al:bri:xtra at: 10-Oct-2000 21:51


Rishi wrote:
> Wasn't there a list already created by the name "rebol"?
I tried creating one earlier today after I read Carl's message, but I got an error message from eGroups, that seemed to indicate the name was already taken.
> If not, who is going to create it and create/maintain list?
I could. Andrew Martin Waving hand in air. ICQ: 26227169 http://members.nbci.com/AndrewMartin/

 [13/22] from: rishi:picostar at: 11-Oct-2000 0:02


That sounds good to me. You get my vote. But it would be nice to have the name REBOL as the newsgroup name. Perhaps you could find out who took this name and see if he/she might give it up for this newsgroup?? Otherwise, what shall we call this discussion group? How about: REBOLTALK REBOLUSERS REBOL/Users Or, if you can use brackets in name, try: [REBOL] ; I kind of like this one. It would also work when you search for the word "rebol" blah blah blah...etc...etc... Rishi Previously, you ([Al--Bri--xtra--co--nz]) wrote:

 [14/22] from: al:bri:xtra at: 11-Oct-2000 1:35


Rishi wrote:
> But it would be nice to have the name REBOL as the newsgroup name. Perhaps
you could find out who took this name and see if he/she might give it up for this newsgroup?? I suspect Rebol Crew have it. Here's the description that eGroups here http://www.egroups.com/group/rebol has about it: <Quote> [rebol--lists--rebol--com] is a remote list. Message archive by month: No messages for this group. Members: 6 Addresses: Post message: [rebol--lists--rebol--com] </Quote> There's no archive and it was: Founded November 11, 1998 I've subscribed and unsubscribed to it. And I've just now subscribed to it again.
> Otherwise, what shall we call this discussion group? > How about:
<<quoted lines omitted: 3>>
> Or, if you can use brackets in name, try: > [REBOL] ; I kind of like this one. It would also work when you search for
the word "rebol" I like the following: [Rebol-Core--egroups--com] [Rebol-View--egroups--com] [Rebol-Command--egroups--com] [Rebol-Express--egroups--com] [Rebol-Apache--egroups--com] It's seems very clear to me and can be easily expanded to cover other products that Rebol-Crew will produce in future. Opinions? Andrew Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://members.nbci.com/AndrewMartin/

 [15/22] from: al:bri:xtra at: 11-Oct-2000 2:10


> And I've just now subscribed to it again.
I also tried emailing to it but got this back from eGroups: <Quote> The rebol group is for archival use only and does not accept direct postings. If you want to post to the actual email list, please send your message to [rebol--lists--rebol--com] For further assistance, please email [support--egroups--com] or visit http://www.egroups.com/help </Quote> Andrew Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://members.nbci.com/AndrewMartin/

 [16/22] from: carlos:lorenz at: 11-Oct-2000 9:22


Great idea, Carl You guys at RT should not waste your precious time bothering with a list when we have eGroups.com. Let's move. I'm pretty sure everyone in here will like it! Carlos Lorenz ----- Original Message ----- From: <[carl--rebol--com]> To: <[list--rebol--com]> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:23 PM Subject: [REBOL] Question: Move the REBOL List?
> Dear REBOL list readers: > > It's great to have so much activity happening with REBOL these days.
Unfortunately, our servers are overloading. We're starting to have gigabyte days. While it is good to have all this activity, it is making life difficult for a few folks around here. What would you think if we were to move this main list to a site like egroups.com? That would also give you web access to archives, file lists, and other features.

 [17/22] from: jsc:dataheaven at: 11-Oct-2000 13:59


I would prefer a main-rebol newsgroup. (comp.lang.rebol) So we would have archive and web-functionality through dejanews. Furthermore newsgroups are IMHO better to handle with this daily amount of posts. Regards, Jochen Schmidt On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, you wrote:

 [18/22] from: sqlab:gmx at: 11-Oct-2000 13:56


I would prefer the newsgroup comp.lang.rebol regards AR
> Dear REBOL list readers: > > It's great to have so much activity happening with REBOL these days. > Unfortunately, our servers are overloading. We're starting to have > gigabyte days. While it is good to have all this activity, it is making
life
> difficult for a few folks around here. > > Your thoughts? > > -Carl
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 [19/22] from: peoyli:algonet:se at: 11-Oct-2000 5:36


How come, that the archive won't fit a CD-ROM ? I have archived all the messages to the REBOL list since -97 (the core/alpha days), and during 2000, I have received anything between 500 and 1400 messages per month.. The lists have existed about three years now, which will allow about 18MB of mails per month to fill up a CD.. 18MB and 1500 messages gives an average mail size of 12k (assuming that the list received 1500 messages a month in November -97)... As I can see from the yet unsorted 1704 messages during September and October, the REBOL list's average message size is about 2-3k, which is also true for the Ally list (which have received about 2200 mails since middle of February) Back in the time when it was possible to get digests of the messages, the maximum size of the 100-message mail I got was 330k. /PeO

 [20/22] from: bcr19374::pegasus::cc::ucf::edu at: 11-Oct-2000 9:17


On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 [jsc--dataheaven--de] wrote:
> I would prefer a main-rebol newsgroup. > (comp.lang.rebol) > > So we would have archive and web-functionality through > dejanews. Furthermore newsgroups are IMHO better to handle > with this daily amount of posts. >
If this is all you want, egroups would be the better choice because their system is much better than what deja provides for newsgroups. Also, creating a new comp newsgroup will undoubtedly take months. Even if we were to go through the procedure for creating the group, there is no gauruntee it would pass. Moving to egroups will be the best short term solution. If we want to create a newsgroup as well, that would be okay. I haven't played D&D for a long time but I don't recall ever hearing my DM say your hero is trapped by a chair and cannot move." - farleybarnstorm on Baulder's Gate -- Jagged Alliance 2 FAQ: http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~bcr19374/ja2faq.html JADG Mailing List: http://www.onelist.com/group/jadg/

 [21/22] from: g:santilli:tiscalinet:it at: 11-Oct-2000 15:46


[carl--rebol--com] wrote:
> Your thoughts?
Go for it. eGroups offers a nice service, so if you need to unload your servers it's a good choice. Regards, Gabriele. -- Gabriele Santilli <[giesse--writeme--com]> - Amigan - REBOL programmer Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila -- http://www.amyresource.it/AGI/

 [22/22] from: chaz:innocent at: 10-Oct-2000 22:47


When do we start? At 06:23 PM 10/10/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Dear REBOL list readers: > >It's great to have so much activity happening with REBOL these days.
Unfortunately, our servers are overloading. We're starting to have gigabyte days. While it is good to have all this activity, it is making life difficult for a few folks around here. What would you think if we were to move this main list to a site like egroups.com? That would also give you web access to archives, file lists, and other features.

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