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mailing list since 1998 & full names in sender

 [1/6] from: t_degrav::rhrk::uni-kl::de at: 24-Aug-2000 11:22


Hi Jeff! [jeff--rebol--net] wrote:
> -jeff > Proud rebol mailing list member since 1998
Hmmm... When exactly was the list started? I just noticed I'm on since 1998 myself, actually much longer than I thought. ;-) And... *g* There's one thing I've been missing all the time! Why are there no full names in the sender entry of the mail header??? As far as I remember I once had a look at Selma and the full name gets stripped somewhere in import-email/parse-header. At least for me the full name of the sender of a mail is usually rather interesting (and on the mailing list it would make things a little easier) so why is it cut anyway??? Tom

 [2/6] from: kevin:sunshinecable at: 24-Aug-2000 10:38


> Hmmm... When exactly was the list started? I just noticed I'm on since > 1998 myself, actually much longer than I thought. ;-)
Tom, I've also been on this list since 1998, but I recall being on the Alpha-test list sometime before that, maybe late 1997 or early '98? Unfortunately, a HD crash wiped out any record of that.
> And... *g* There's one thing I've been missing all the time! > Why are there no full names in the sender entry of the mail header???
You'll recall that before SELMA took over the list, there *were* full names in the header. Ingo and I discussed the "problem" and even had some solutions; none of mine ever got worked through enough to submit to RT for inclusion in Selma (or REBOL itself).
> As far as I remember I once had a look at Selma and the full name gets > stripped somewhere in import-email/parse-header. At least for me the > full name of the sender of a mail is usually rather interesting (and > on the mailing list it would make things a little easier) so why is it > cut anyway???
There's a few different ways that e-mail programs format the From: header, and parsing all of the permutations was a bit of a trick. My sample code from late '99 (message 13311) was fixed up by Thomas Jensen in message 13315 and is a great starting point for a final solution to this. Maybe it's time to dust this issue off and take another look at it. Other messages in the thread/related to this issue are 13119, 13307, 13295, 15460, 36519, 47439. Best regards, Kev ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kevin McKinnon, System/Network Administrator [kevin--sunshinecable--com] Sunshine Communications http://www.sunshinecable.com PGP Public Key: http://www.dockmaster.net/pgp.html PGP 6.0 www.pgp.com

 [3/6] from: princepawn:lycos at: 24-Aug-2000 13:06


I dont mean to embarrass anyone, but, I went to abooks.com to buy the REBOL guide and REBOL for dummies and typed rebol, then Rebol, then REBOL into their search engine, and guess what the reply was? Nothing found --- Powered by REBOL Really, this should be fixed. Send your favorite photo with any online greeting! http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/redirects/americangreetings.rdct

 [4/6] from: ole_f:post3:tele:dk at: 24-Aug-2000 14:15


Hi , 24-Aug-2000 you wrote: ^ Name is missing, yup! :-) [...]
>> As far as I remember I once had a look at Selma and the full name gets >> stripped somewhere in import-email/parse-header. At least for me the
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>Maybe it's time to dust this issue off and take another look at it. >Other messages in the thread/related to this issue are 13119, 13307, >13295,
15460, 36519, 47439. Just in case everything else fails, I've got some C code (for my self-written mailer) that parses mail addresses. Perhaps there exist mailers that output addresses in a format that my C code doesn't handle, but I haven't ever seen such a format. And I've used my own mailer in the last couple of years, so I should've noticed if I'd got such a mail. Just send me a mail if this code snippet is of interest.
>Best regards, >Kev
Kind regards, -- Ole Friis <[ole_f--post3--tele--dk]> Amiga is a trademark of Amiga Inc.

 [5/6] from: g:santilli:tiscalinet:it at: 24-Aug-2000 21:29


Hello [kevin--sunshinecable--com]! On 24-Ago-00, you wrote: k> There's a few different ways that e-mail programs format the k> From: header, and parsing all of the permutations was a bit of k> a trick. My sample code from late '99 (message 13311) was k> fixed up by Thomas Jensen in message 13315 and is a great k> starting point for a final solution to this. SELMA doesn't need to recreate the message; it could keep at least the interesting fields (I would RESEND the message as is, but perhaps stripping Received: headers etc. makes sense). I posted a patch for the header parser, too, anyway... Regards, Gabriele. -- Gabriele Santilli <[giesse--writeme--com]> - Amigan - REBOL programmer Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila -- http://www.amyresource.it/AGI/

 [6/6] from: ingo:2b1 at: 23-Sep-2000 0:07


Once upon a time [kevin--sunshinecable--com] spoketh thus: <...>
> > And... *g* There's one thing I've been missing all the time! > > Why are there no full names in the sender entry of the mail header??? > > You'll recall that before SELMA took over the list, there *were* full > names in the header. Ingo and I discussed the "problem" and even had > some solutions; none of mine ever got worked through enough to submit > to RT for inclusion in Selma (or REBOL itself).
<...> Hi Kev, my version works for me and got sent to feedback (final version was #1467 22/Nov/1999, I think), after that I never heard about it. Same for help working on path values (#2729 12/Apr/2000). So I now just enjoy my working system, best regards, Ingo

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