[ALLY] REBOL Announcement...
[1/9] from: carl:rebol at: 8-May-2001 17:18
Check http://www.rebol.com for announcement of
REBOL Consulting, LLC.
a partnership with Eight, Inc. These guys are
great. Tom Chang has actually been using REBOL
for almost 10 years. (Or course, back in those
early days, it had real time 30 FPS video with
sound... Looked as good as TV.)
Welcome Tom!
-Carl
[2/9] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 9-May-2001 6:28
Carl Sassenrath wrote:
> Check http://www.rebol.com for announcement of
>
> REBOL Consulting, LLC.
>
> a partnership with Eight, Inc. These guys are
> great. Tom Chang has actually been using REBOL
> for almost 10 years.
Do you mean AmigaOS? Has BAY video-editing system anything in common
with Amiga?
> (Or course, back in those
> early days, it had real time 30 FPS video with
> sound... Looked as good as TV.)
Ah, so - let's hope we will see some multimedia capable Rebol in some
future then :-)
-pekr-
[3/9] from: larry:ecotope at: 9-May-2001 10:06
Hi Tom
Very interesting, thanks for the background. I suspected all along that
REBOL had some deep roots.
-Larry
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From: "Tom Y. Chang" <[tchang--8inc--com]>
To: <[ally-list--rebol--com]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:33 AM
Subject: [ALLY] Re: REBOL Announcement...
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[4/9] from: tchang:8inc at: 9-May-2001 11:46
Hi All,
Since you're on the ally list, I think I can safely
assume that you all know what an amazing
technology REBOL is.
Historically, one of main reasons mainstream
businesses have been slow to adopt REBOL
was the lack of mainstream businesses that had
adopted REBOL.
Through some of the deals we are working on
in these first few months, we hope to use
REBOL Consulting as a vehicle to break this
cycle.
I'm very excited to be working with Carl and
company again, and I look forward to working
with all of you in helping to clue the rest of the
world in to the power of REBOL.
In the meantime, if any of you would like any
help in developing proposals or promoting
REBOL internally within your own companies
and organizations, please feel free to contact me
directly, and we'll to do all we can to help.
Yours truly,
Tom Chang
Managing Director
REBOL Consulting, LLC
University Park at MIT
129 Franklin St. #211
Cambridge, MA 02139
(617) 494-5507 voice
(617) 494-0985 fax
Carl Sassenrath wrote:
[5/9] from: joel:neely:fedex at: 8-May-2001 19:41
Let me be the first (if I can hit "Send" quickly enough ;-)
to sound a word of praise for the new look of the web site!
Classy!
-jn-
Carl Sassenrath wrote:
[6/9] from: tchang::8inc::com at: 9-May-2001 12:33
Hi Petr:
Petr Krenzelok wrote:
> Carl Sassenrath wrote:
> > Check http://www.rebol.com for announcement of
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> Do you mean AmigaOS? Has BAY video-editing system anything in common
> with Amiga?
Having worked on BAY, I can tell you that the relationship
between BAY and the Amiga was simply the fact that BAY ran
on top of AmigaOS. The reason for this was that that back
then it was the only hardware/OS out there (short of
$100,000 custom graphical workstations) that could handle
this sort of application. REBOL actually started a few years
before BAY.
In the very early 90's, I worked for Carl at a company
called AMI. AMI created multimedia corporate training
CD-ROMs for CDTV. After evaluating all the development
tools out there, we decided that everything basically
sucked. So Carl being Carl created his own scripting
language (we called in MIME) that was very much an early
prototype of REBOL. In fact, some of those early scripts
would probably be quite familiar to the folks on Ally.
So back in the days of Quicktime 1.0, Director 1.0, and
AmigaVision, we had the ability to easily build
graphically rich interactive GUI's w/ TV quality motion
video. Unfortunately, as many of you know, Commodore
decided to go belly up about this time, and with it CDTV
and AMI.
Fast forward a year, and I'm working for Carl again at
VideoStream. This was a time before the web when
interactive TV was the hot new technology that was going
to revolutionize the world. With bandwidth being what it
was in those days, having a distributed application
framework was absolutely essential to having something useful.
Of course with MIME we already had a multimedia
development environment years ahead of anything out there,
and so by making it network aware (and some other clever
things besides), we had essentially the father (or maybe
bastard brother) of REBOL/View. So back in the early 90's,
we had a distributed multimedia application platform
capable of building interactive TV networks that some of
the 'cutting-edge' web based sites are just now approaching.
In fact the Starfestival Network system that we just
recently helped MIT build reminded me of nothing so much
as the work I had done with Carl back in the early 90s.
Unfortunately those years with Carl and MIME ruined me for
any other programming language. Though I slummed around
with Java, C, VB, Lingo, and even Scheme for a bit, I
was continuously disappointed that I couldn't do in a
thousand lines of code some of the things that had taken
half a page in MIME.
Well sorry for the essay, but let this be a warning to
you all in asking questions that are connected to me in
even the slightest way!
Yours truly,
Tom Chang
Managing Director
REBOL Consulting, LLC
University Park at MIT
129 Franklin St. #211
Cambridge, MA 02139
(617) 494-5507 voice
(617) 494-0985 fax
[7/9] from: ptretter:charter at: 9-May-2001 19:03
I wish.
Paul Tretter
[8/9] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 9-May-2001 20:15
Hi Tom,
thank you very much for your explanation. You introduced yourself very
nicely (something I missed from Tom Coull - to become part of the
community!)
It is very interesting story. I hope you will help us to spread Rebol
widely, as it deserves it. One day, as multimedia come to Rebol land, Rebol
will become supernova!
Cheers,
-pekr-
[9/9] from: allenk:powerup:au at: 10-May-2001 7:52
Thanks Tom,
It is great to learn more of the behind the scenes REBOL history.
Looking forward to when Carl uncomments the full motion video and sound code
in View. :-)
Cheers,
Allen K
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