Visual editor or IDE for Rebol
[1/6] from: jim::bergenshaw::com at: 8-Sep-2002 18:59
I'm currently learning Rebol and I am about to start my first application.
Can anyone suggest a good Visual editor or IDE for Rebol that runs on
Windows 2000? I have been using Visual Studio since its first beta and
would prefer and equally intuitive editor/IDE.
Jim
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[2/6] from: jason:cunliffe:verizon at: 8-Sep-2002 22:33
> I'm currently learning Rebol and I am about to start my first application.
> Can anyone suggest a good Visual editor or IDE for Rebol that runs on
> Windows 2000? I have been using Visual Studio since its first beta and
> would prefer and equally intuitive editor/IDE.
IDE no.. though some might argue EMACS
Truly the REBOL interactive shell is your best friend.
Also for deeper understanding people usually recommend %anamonitor.r
http://web.tiscali.it/anarkick/anamonitor.r
I am not sure if that is the best link for it.
Purpose: {
To visually examine nested objects/blocks.
Examples:
monitor
monitor system/words
monitor svv
}
Maxim had embedded anamonitor in his super Rebol/View framework called 'Glass'.
An easy shortcut opens the monitor with the current window directly in the
monitor, ready to debug and probe your work environment.
Sweet. But
unfortunately the Glass project is in limbo
at the moment :-(
I use UltraEdit32 on Windows. Its a terrific programmers' editor. With colored
syntax highlighting for REBOL and almost all languages. It has built in FTP
which makes it a cinch to edit on a remote server. Once a set of remote scripts
are open, you just make changes and hit save. Likewise working between local and
remote is simple cut'n'paste
http://www.ultraedit.com/
Before that I used NoteTabPro which is also wonderful. Extremely fast with many
unique clever features.
http://www.notetab.com/
./Jason
[3/6] from: al:bri:xtra at: 9-Sep-2002 17:51
> I'm currently learning Rebol and I am about to start my first application.
Can anyone suggest a good Visual editor or IDE for Rebol that runs on
Windows 2000?
I like using MetaPad:
http://liquidninja.com/metapad/
But then it's not really a visual editor or IDE.
It's just my opinion, but I believe that in writing Rebol script, a simple
text editor is just fine, provided one uses white space effectively.
Andrew Martin
ICQ: 26227169 http://valley.150m.com/
[4/6] from: greggirwin:mindspring at: 9-Sep-2002 0:28
Hi Jim,
<< I'm currently learning Rebol and I am about to start my first
application.
Can anyone suggest a good Visual editor or IDE for Rebol that runs on
Windows 2000? I have been using Visual Studio since its first beta and
would prefer and equally intuitive editor/IDE. >>
There is no "IDE" for REBOL available at this time. Everyone likes different
editors, and you should get some good responses here about different ones to
try. There are a number of projects people have started which are headed in
that direction but, perhaps strangely, while it's pretty easy to build some
of those tools (e.g. a GUI layout tool) in REBOL itself, many of those
projects fade away because modeling things on how other tools work often
doesn't translate well into REBOL. I.e. they end up being harder to use than
the "raw" alternative.
As an example, I built a little prototype that does for REBOL what
Intellisense does in the VS IDE (as pioneered in VB). It's a simple
prototype, but functional, supporting both pop-up lists of object properties
and syntax help for functions. In VB (my previous environment), those
features became indispensible, and I probably wouldn't mind having them on
hand for REBOL, but I haven't missed them all that much, which was a big
surprise to me! I went all the way from QB4 to VB1 through VB6, and always
loved what the IDE gave me, feature wise. I do miss Shift+F2 though. :(
Anyway, I use ConTEXT for most of my REBOL editing, and it does a fine job.
In the REBOL console you have "tab completion" of known words which is kind
of like Intellisense, but I very rarely even use that. The way I write in
REBOL is totally different from the way I wrote BASIC (QB/VB) code. I've
only been with it for a year, but I'm anxious to see how my style evolves.
As far as what's intuitive, hey, just try some different approaches and
tools and see what works best for you. See how simple you can keep things.
Much of REBOL is about simplicity. As many folks say, there is a certain
zen
quality to really elegant REBOL code, and I think that carries over
into how we produce that code, in both the thought/creative/problem-solving
and construction aspects.
Best of luck, and happy REBOLing!
--Gregg
[5/6] from: chris:ross-gill at: 9-Sep-2002 9:45
Hi Jim,
> I'm currently learning Rebol and I am about to start my first application.
> Can anyone suggest a good Visual editor or IDE for Rebol that runs on
> Windows 2000? I have been using Visual Studio since its first beta and
> would prefer and equally intuitive editor/IDE.
You could try this:
http://www.reboltech.com/library/scripts/layout.r
View the script as HTML:
http://www.reboltech.com/library/html/layout.html
Plus some ammended versions in the library. 'rebol.com/library/vid' on the
View Desktop...
- Chris
[6/6] from: webmaster:windsweptfarm at: 9-Sep-2002 10:37
Dear Jim,
Try "Notetab Pro" or "Editplus" as an editor.
They are both good editors.
Each has application launch capabilities, although editplus
is is easier to configure in this regard.
If you configure them right you can create your own poorman's IDE.
There really isn't anything else you need for Rebol, except perhaps
time and a clear head to get a good grasp of how it works.
good luck...
Jim Shaw wrote: