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[REBOL] Re: Visual editor or IDE for Rebol

From: greggirwin:mindspring at: 9-Sep-2002 0:28

Hi Jim, << I'm currently learning Rebol and I am about to start my first application. Can anyone suggest a good Visual editor or IDE for Rebol that runs on Windows 2000? I have been using Visual Studio since its first beta and would prefer and equally intuitive editor/IDE. >> There is no "IDE" for REBOL available at this time. Everyone likes different editors, and you should get some good responses here about different ones to try. There are a number of projects people have started which are headed in that direction but, perhaps strangely, while it's pretty easy to build some of those tools (e.g. a GUI layout tool) in REBOL itself, many of those projects fade away because modeling things on how other tools work often doesn't translate well into REBOL. I.e. they end up being harder to use than the "raw" alternative. As an example, I built a little prototype that does for REBOL what Intellisense does in the VS IDE (as pioneered in VB). It's a simple prototype, but functional, supporting both pop-up lists of object properties and syntax help for functions. In VB (my previous environment), those features became indispensible, and I probably wouldn't mind having them on hand for REBOL, but I haven't missed them all that much, which was a big surprise to me! I went all the way from QB4 to VB1 through VB6, and always loved what the IDE gave me, feature wise. I do miss Shift+F2 though. :( Anyway, I use ConTEXT for most of my REBOL editing, and it does a fine job. In the REBOL console you have "tab completion" of known words which is kind of like Intellisense, but I very rarely even use that. The way I write in REBOL is totally different from the way I wrote BASIC (QB/VB) code. I've only been with it for a year, but I'm anxious to see how my style evolves. As far as what's intuitive, hey, just try some different approaches and tools and see what works best for you. See how simple you can keep things. Much of REBOL is about simplicity. As many folks say, there is a certain zen quality to really elegant REBOL code, and I think that carries over into how we produce that code, in both the thought/creative/problem-solving and construction aspects. Best of luck, and happy REBOLing! --Gregg