Qs: + How to add a scroll bar to text-list in /View?

[1/3] from: jason::cunliffe::verizon::net at: 19-Jun-2002 7:43

I have a text-list.. search-result: text-list 800x200 [ select-url ;;; function to populate the block show search-result ;;; refresh ] ..works ok. So now: Q1: How to enable scrolling when the block loading into search-result/data is bigger than my list's view [800x200]? Q2: How to make the scroll bar proportionate? Q3: How to tabulate and style data within each line of the text-list? Q3: Does IOS come with any better /View /VID developer docs beyond what is already scattered around?? Q4: How does RT expect people to develop IOS apps? .. Perhaps they don't - it's a way to invite developer business for themselves..[more power to them] .. or are they simply overwhelmed by life, time and resources [I know I am] Q5: Is any View /VID book in the works? The only REBOL book with /VIEW info I know of is an English translation of Olivier Auverlot's excellent French book. But there's much more needed.. Q6a: What do you all think the publishing prospects are for /View? Q6b:What do you all think the publishing prospects are for /View if oriented to IOS? Q7: Even if one only pulled together all the current knowledge, do you think that would be valuable in a single paperback / PDF? [I am assuming it would have a GOOD index] If such were published do you think it would be hopelessly out of date by that time? Is there any point until /View gets sizers and other modern GUI features implemented? [..ouch! Did I say that?] Are such in the works? Q8: http://rebol.com/reblets.html Do the following un-illustrated IOS apps exist? Agenda Toolbar Journal Whiteboard If so why no screenshots? If not, then betters tell status? The irony is that when one knows how, /View is so fast and easy. But without the knowledge, the time-sink learning essential features seem quite disproportionate. thanks ./Jason

[2/3] from: jason:cunliffe:verizon at: 19-Jun-2002 8:00

Hi. again. Well answering my own previous Q1, and Q2, I just found this on Code conscious [>>Thank you!!<<] ./Jason http://www.codeconscious.com/rebol/vid-notes.html#Text-ListStyle <quote> When you have add or subtracted lines to a text-list you need to modify the text-list's slider so that it reflects the new data. Here's one method to do it: view layout [ style updatable-text-list text-list with [ update-slider: does [ sld/redrag lc / max 1 length? head lines ] ] tl: updatable-text-list 300x100 data copy system/locale/months button "Delete first" [ remove tl/data tl/update-slider show tl ] button "Append now" [ append tl/data mold now tl/update-slider show tl ] ] </quote>

[3/3] from: gscottjones:mchsi at: 21-Jun-2002 15:52

From: "Jason Cunliffe" <snip and Q1 and Q2 self-answered>

> Q3: How to tabulate and style data within each line of the text-list?

You will need to use the list style instead of text-list. Documentation is noticeably more shy in this arena. You will find some help here: http://www.rebolforces.com/zine/rzine-1-03.html#sect5.

> Q3: Does IOS come with any better /View /VID developer docs beyond what is > already scattered around??

In a word, no. :-)

> Q4: How does RT expect people to develop IOS apps? > .. Perhaps they don't - it's a way to invite developer business for > themselves..[more power to them] > .. or are they simply overwhelmed by life, time and resources [I know I

am] I think that they would be pleased as punch to have people developing for IOS and helping them sell lots of installations. I think the answer lies more in the limited resource realm, but I do not know the *real* answer.

> Q5: Is any View /VID book in the works? The only > REBOL book with /VIEW info I know of is an English > translation of Olivier Auverlot's excellent French book. > But there's much more needed..

I think that most on the list would love to see comprehensive documentation on both /View and VID. I am not aware of any other books in the works, but I doubt we would hear about it until it would be released. BTW, I have not seen Olivier Auverlot's english translated version yet.

> Q6a: What do you all think the publishing prospects are for /View? > Q6b:What do you all think the publishing prospects are for /View if

oriented to

> IOS?

I am not clear what exactly you mean by "publishing prospects." Do you mean books?

> Q7: Even if one only pulled together all the current knowledge, > do you think that would be valuable in a single paperback / PDF? > I am assuming it would have a GOOD index]

I do. I'm sure others would, also.

> If such were published do you think it would be > hopelessly out of date by that time?

The pace of version releases seems to be slowing as the platform becomes more stable and RT focuses on income-generating activities. My guess is that a new book would get some shelf life before being hopelessly out of date. I still successfully refer to the /Core 2.3 pdf.

> Is there any point until /View gets sizers and other > modern GUI features implemented? > [..ouch! Did I say that?] > Are such in the works?

Ouch is right. :-( I think that the single thing that would help any/all aspects of REBOL would be wider adoption of the technology. O'reilly publishing has made a nice business of publishing books that fill in widely used but under documented software (witness the continued prescence of JavaScript on the best-seller lists). Unfortunately, my understanding is that they focus on "open" technologies.

> Q8: http://rebol.com/reblets.html > Do the following un-illustrated IOS apps exist? > Agenda > Toolbar > Journal > Whiteboard

I've not yet seen these apps. Could I have overlooked them? Can't help on this one.

<snip> > The irony is that when one knows how, /View is so > fast and easy. But without the knowledge, the time-sink > learning essential features seem quite disproportionate.

I think that this is a valid comment/criticism. This list is an absolutely incredible resource as you have undoubtedly already discovered over the last 4+ months.

> thanks > ./Jason

You are welcome. Hope it helps some. --Scott Jones