[ALLY] REBOL Announcement...
[1/9] from: carl:rebol at: 8-May-2001 17:18
Check http://www.rebol.com for announcement of REBOL Consulting, LLC. a partnership with Eight, Inc. These guys are great. Tom Chang has actually been using REBOL for almost 10 years. (Or course, back in those early days, it had real time 30 FPS video with sound... Looked as good as TV.) Welcome Tom! -Carl
[2/9] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 9-May-2001 6:28
Carl Sassenrath wrote:
> Check http://www.rebol.com for announcement of > > REBOL Consulting, LLC. > > a partnership with Eight, Inc. These guys are > great. Tom Chang has actually been using REBOL > for almost 10 years.
Do you mean AmigaOS? Has BAY video-editing system anything in common with Amiga?
> (Or course, back in those > early days, it had real time 30 FPS video with > sound... Looked as good as TV.)
Ah, so - let's hope we will see some multimedia capable Rebol in some future then :-) -pekr-
[3/9] from: larry:ecotope at: 9-May-2001 10:06
Hi Tom Very interesting, thanks for the background. I suspected all along that REBOL had some deep roots. -Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Y. Chang" <[tchang--8inc--com]> To: <[ally-list--rebol--com]> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:33 AM Subject: [ALLY] Re: REBOL Announcement... -----snip--------
[4/9] from: tchang:8inc at: 9-May-2001 11:46
Hi All, Since you're on the ally list, I think I can safely assume that you all know what an amazing technology REBOL is. Historically, one of main reasons mainstream businesses have been slow to adopt REBOL was the lack of mainstream businesses that had adopted REBOL. Through some of the deals we are working on in these first few months, we hope to use REBOL Consulting as a vehicle to break this cycle. I'm very excited to be working with Carl and company again, and I look forward to working with all of you in helping to clue the rest of the world in to the power of REBOL. In the meantime, if any of you would like any help in developing proposals or promoting REBOL internally within your own companies and organizations, please feel free to contact me directly, and we'll to do all we can to help. Yours truly, Tom Chang Managing Director REBOL Consulting, LLC University Park at MIT 129 Franklin St. #211 Cambridge, MA 02139 (617) 494-5507 voice (617) 494-0985 fax Carl Sassenrath wrote:
[5/9] from: joel:neely:fedex at: 8-May-2001 19:41
Let me be the first (if I can hit "Send" quickly enough ;-) to sound a word of praise for the new look of the web site! Classy! -jn- Carl Sassenrath wrote:
[6/9] from: tchang::8inc::com at: 9-May-2001 12:33
Hi Petr: Petr Krenzelok wrote:
> Carl Sassenrath wrote: > > Check http://www.rebol.com for announcement of
<<quoted lines omitted: 6>>> Do you mean AmigaOS? Has BAY video-editing system anything in common > with Amiga?
Having worked on BAY, I can tell you that the relationship between BAY and the Amiga was simply the fact that BAY ran on top of AmigaOS. The reason for this was that that back then it was the only hardware/OS out there (short of $100,000 custom graphical workstations) that could handle this sort of application. REBOL actually started a few years before BAY. In the very early 90's, I worked for Carl at a company called AMI. AMI created multimedia corporate training CD-ROMs for CDTV. After evaluating all the development tools out there, we decided that everything basically sucked. So Carl being Carl created his own scripting language (we called in MIME) that was very much an early prototype of REBOL. In fact, some of those early scripts would probably be quite familiar to the folks on Ally. So back in the days of Quicktime 1.0, Director 1.0, and AmigaVision, we had the ability to easily build graphically rich interactive GUI's w/ TV quality motion video. Unfortunately, as many of you know, Commodore decided to go belly up about this time, and with it CDTV and AMI. Fast forward a year, and I'm working for Carl again at VideoStream. This was a time before the web when interactive TV was the hot new technology that was going to revolutionize the world. With bandwidth being what it was in those days, having a distributed application framework was absolutely essential to having something useful. Of course with MIME we already had a multimedia development environment years ahead of anything out there, and so by making it network aware (and some other clever things besides), we had essentially the father (or maybe bastard brother) of REBOL/View. So back in the early 90's, we had a distributed multimedia application platform capable of building interactive TV networks that some of the 'cutting-edge' web based sites are just now approaching. In fact the Starfestival Network system that we just recently helped MIT build reminded me of nothing so much as the work I had done with Carl back in the early 90s. Unfortunately those years with Carl and MIME ruined me for any other programming language. Though I slummed around with Java, C, VB, Lingo, and even Scheme for a bit, I was continuously disappointed that I couldn't do in a thousand lines of code some of the things that had taken half a page in MIME. Well sorry for the essay, but let this be a warning to you all in asking questions that are connected to me in even the slightest way! Yours truly, Tom Chang Managing Director REBOL Consulting, LLC University Park at MIT 129 Franklin St. #211 Cambridge, MA 02139 (617) 494-5507 voice (617) 494-0985 fax
[7/9] from: ptretter:charter at: 9-May-2001 19:03
I wish. Paul Tretter
[8/9] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 9-May-2001 20:15
Hi Tom, thank you very much for your explanation. You introduced yourself very nicely (something I missed from Tom Coull - to become part of the community!) It is very interesting story. I hope you will help us to spread Rebol widely, as it deserves it. One day, as multimedia come to Rebol land, Rebol will become supernova! Cheers, -pekr-
[9/9] from: allenk:powerup:au at: 10-May-2001 7:52
Thanks Tom, It is great to learn more of the behind the scenes REBOL history. Looking forward to when Carl uncomments the full motion video and sound code in View. :-) Cheers, Allen K
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