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Authenticated POP

 [1/5] from: philb::upnaway::com at: 30-May-2001 17:54


Hi Rebolers, Can someone point me in the direction of how to use APOP3 insdead of POP3 in Core 2.5/View 1.2 Or is it just transparent and is used automatically and drops back to POP3 if required. Cheers Phil

 [2/5] from: gjones05:mail:orion at: 30-May-2001 6:58


From: <[philb--upnaway--com]>
> Can someone point me in the direction of how to use APOP3 insdead of
POP3 in Core 2.5/View 1.2
> Or is it just transparent and is used automatically and drops back to
POP3 if required. Mar-26-2001 Holger Kruse wrote: ... We added support for APOP (POP with encrypted passwords) in this version of REBOL. The support is usually transparent, i.e. REBOL only uses APOP if the server declares that it supports it, and even then falls back to regular POP if an error occurs with APOP. ... --Scott Jones

 [3/5] from: philb:upnaway at: 30-May-2001 20:54


Hi Scott (or Holger), How do I tell if my ISP (or their server) supports APOP. Just wondering if I can tell if my POP password is being broadcast "plain text". If I use Rebol to read my mail is it any more insecure than Outlook Express ?? Cheers Phil -- Origional Message -- From: <[philb--upnaway--com]>
> Can someone point me in the direction of how to use APOP3 insdead of
POP3 in Core 2.5/View 1.2
> Or is it just transparent and is used automatically and drops back to
POP3 if required. Mar-26-2001 Holger Kruse wrote: .... We added support for APOP (POP with encrypted passwords) in this version of REBOL. The support is usually transparent, i.e. REBOL only uses APOP if the server declares that it supports it, and even then falls back to regular POP if an error occurs with APOP. .... --Scott Jones

 [4/5] from: holger:rebol at: 1-Jun-2001 9:06


On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:54:28PM +0800, [philb--upnaway--com] wrote:
> Hi Rebolers, > > Can someone point me in the direction of how to use APOP3 insdead of POP3 in Core 2.5/View 1.2 > > Or is it just transparent and is used automatically and drops back to POP3 if required.
In Core 2.5 APOP is transparent. REBOL automatically uses it if the POP server indicates that it supports it. Unfortunately after releasing Core 2.5 we found out that there are some POP servers out there which indicate that they support APOP even if they do not, breaking REBOL's POP implementation, requiring a patch for some users. Because of that in View 1.2 APOP is no longer transparent. You need to manually enable it by putting system/schemes/pop/algorithm: 'apop into your user.r -- Holger Kruse [holger--rebol--com]

 [5/5] from: holger:rebol at: 1-Jun-2001 9:10


On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 08:54:57PM +0800, [philb--upnaway--com] wrote:
> Hi Scott (or Holger), > > How do I tell if my ISP (or their server) supports APOP. > Just wondering if I can tell if my POP password is being broadcast "plain text".
First make sure that REBOL uses APOP. In Core 2.5 it is transparent, in View 1.2 and future versions you need to have system/schemes/pop/algorithm: 'apop in your user.r to enable it. Then enable networking tracing with trace/net on After that try to read email from your pop account. If the trace output contains the command APOP then APOP is used, i.e. the password is sent in encrypted form. If it contains USER and PASS then your server does not support APOP and the password is sent in clear text.
> If I use Rebol to read my mail is it any more insecure than Outlook Express ??
I don't know what security features Outlook Express has. REBOL supports the common Internet RFC standards for POP, including security features. -- Holger Kruse [holger--rebol--com]