will the tech readers over on doom9 with try and make a GUI i wonder!

Hello rebolist, as the subject says "will the tech readers over on doom9 with try and make a GUI i wonder!" http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=849863#post849863 this is one of my final attempts to see if anyone even remotely interested in GUI making/using front ends for any of the video encoders will take up the challenge and even comment on my pointing them to rebol/view once again, never mind actually trying to make even a simple fully working basic frontend for H/x264 many of these doom9 people/readers are pros when it comes to video encoding and even they cant be bothered to look at rebol/view to make their front ends and would rather use the likes of Delphi and .NET than try rebol/view it seems. as not even one single working example /view GUI encoder script exists, then the futures non existent to even show these readers how you can make good or even excellent pro looking GUIs that they might just see and take notice of, and how it was scripted, hence makeing /view exciting to them (if only a few to begin with) then , im just about finished trying to advocate rebol as a gui that everyone can learn and use every day. do a search on gui and rebol view sometime and you will find nothing and noone but me, advocating it to these types of pro peoples and their readers, so thats it for me if nothing changes soon. -- Best regards, david mailto:david.may10-ntlworld.com

On 7/8/06, david may <david.may10-ntlworld.com> wrote: many of these doom9 people/readers are pros when it comes to video encoding and even they cant be bothered to look at rebol/view to make their front ends and would rather use the likes of Delphi and .NET than try rebol/view it seems. as not even one single working example /view GUI encoder script exists, then the futures non existent to even show these readers how you can make good or even excellent pro looking GUIs that they might just see and take notice of, and how it was scripted, hence makeing /view exciting to them (if only a few to begin with) then , im just about finished trying to advocate rebol as a gui that everyone can learn and use every day. In my experience, advocating anything means absolutely nothing to anyone. I haven't read any of your posts, so I don't mean to imply anything about them (in particular). But most "hey, someone should take up the challenge and do X!" posts are nothing more than "hey, I would like this, but don't want to do the work, so could someone else do it for me?" posts. Would I like to see REBOL/View used more? Yes. Do I think it's ready for prime-time? No (something as simple as resizing is an absolute bitch). But, if you'd like to "advocate" to the rest of the world to use it, you need to prove to them that it is a viable alternative to what they already know works - not ask others to do so for you. Just my 2 cents. Jeff M. -- massung-gmail.com

Yep, I was just about to say the same thing. If it is found that advocacy is becoming difficult, this indicates that desire for the existance of something exceeds the reality of the situation by too much, therefore adjustments to standard procedure need to be made. My suggestion is to increase the coding:advocacy ratio until the situation becomes more balanced. Anton.