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unsolicited email - nql

 [1/34] from: giovanni::cardona::com at: 21-Apr-2001 22:15


Yes, me too! and yes, I think the same, someone is grabbing email info from this list

 [2/34] from: sterling:rebol at: 21-Apr-2001 19:17


No, but I have noticed a jump in the spam I get recently. It happened just a couple weeks ago. Sterling

 [3/34] from: larry:ecotope at: 21-Apr-2001 20:25


Hi Brett Yeah, I got that one too. -Larry

 [4/34] from: jojon:swipnet:se at: 22-Apr-2001 9:23


Brett Handley wrote:
>Anyone else here received unsolicited commercial email from nqli.com? >Just testing a theory they've been trawling this list.
Yes - and I do not use this address other than here. Very disturbing. The note at the bottom had me laughing out loud. Prohibited indeed... Well, these people have in one swift stroke made sure that nobody will ever take them seriously.

 [5/34] from: tomc:darkwing:uoregon at: 22-Apr-2001 11:44


yes I have On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Brett Handley wrote:

 [6/34] from: kracik:mbox:dkm:cz at: 22-Apr-2001 14:08


Yes, I got it twice, one of this being an old email address that I don't use anymore, but was formerly registered on this list. -- Michal Kracik Jonny Johansson wrote:

 [7/34] from: brett:codeconscious at: 22-Apr-2001 11:39


Anyone else here received unsolicited commercial email from nqli.com? Just testing a theory they've been trawling this list. Thanks, Brett. --- http://www.codeconscious.com

 [8/34] from: blazs:orac:au at: 22-Apr-2001 15:44


Hello Brett On 22-Apr-01, Brett Handley wrote:
> Anyone else here received unsolicited commercial email from > nqli.com? Just testing a theory they've been trawling this list.
Yeah I've received that email but haven't bothered checking it out. Though from what was in the email it might be some competition for REBOL?
> Thanks, > Brett. > --- > http://www.codeconscious.com >
Regards Blaz

 [9/34] from: chrismorency:videotron:ca at: 21-Apr-2001 23:36


Hi, Got the same here ! This is a new email address I'm using and haven't got any spam on it until today. Now, I'm wondering how does RT will respond to this. This is clearly unsolicitated spam from what could be a future competitor... now either this is done with or without the authorization from RT but I personnally think they/we should respond swiftly on the subject. In either case, this is is clearly unprofessional from nqli and even if their products is the way of the future, I won't even look into it further than deleting their spam ! Period. Best, Chris

 [10/34] from: carl:cybercraft at: 22-Apr-2001 16:19


Yep - me too. On 22-Apr-01, Brett Handley wrote:
> Anyone else here received unsolicited commercial email from > nqli.com? Just testing a theory they've been trawling this list. > Thanks, > Brett. > --- > http://www.codeconscious.com
-- Carl Read [carl--cybercraft--co--nz]

 [11/34] from: deryk:iitowns at: 22-Apr-2001 14:11


Brett Handley wrote:
> Anyone else here received unsolicited commercial email from nqli.com? > Just testing a theory they've been trawling this list.
Yup, added a filter for it this morning to throw them to the bit bucket. Deryk -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Listar -- -- Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature -- File: smime.p7s -- Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

 [12/34] from: allenk:powerup:au at: 22-Apr-2001 16:18


Haven't received anything here yet. Might be an idea to ask them how they got hold of your addresses, it doesn't fit with nqli's privacy policy. Allen K

 [13/34] from: al:bri:xtra at: 22-Apr-2001 18:53


> > Anyone else here received unsolicited commercial email from nqli.com?
I haven't -- yet. Perhaps I've been too quiet? Andrew Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://members.nbci.com/AndrewMartin/

 [14/34] from: ptretter:norcom2000 at: 22-Apr-2001 8:42


I received email from them also. Paul Tretter

 [15/34] from: brett:codeconscious at: 22-Apr-2001 23:32


Thanks for the responses. Brett.

 [16/34] from: brett:codeconscious at: 22-Apr-2001 23:59


A doubt exists that it came from nqli in the first place. I hope that I've not caused unnecessary email. Anyway I'll be checking with them. Thanks. Brett.

 [17/34] from: carl:rebol at: 22-Apr-2001 12:25


Ok, I'm back. Had a great trip. Meeting at Netscape for Internet Developers/Technology Group went very well. It was a fun to give a talk to folks who understand the distributed computing concept and the importance of its future. So much email... but, this one on nql caught my eye... I've not received it, but my auto-despam filters are pretty high. I would agree that it's probably not from ngli guys. That would be pretty low. Besides, my attitude about nql is that REBOL pretty much blows it away... We could make nql a dialect if we want that. -Carl Founder & CTO REBOL Technologies

 [18/34] from: roblasalle::yahoo::com at: 22-Apr-2001 14:31

Re: NQL technology spamming


--- Graham Chiu <[gchiu--compkarori--co--nz]> wrote:
> > to know better than this, this is how spammers GET > e-mail
<<quoted lines omitted: 5>>
> -- > Graham Chiu
Yeah I got spammed too. And you are correct Graham as that is what their technology is about. Too bad that a recent IT trade magazine story stated their product starts at about $250,000!!! Such a bargain! Rob La Salle

 [19/34] from: larry:ecotope at: 22-Apr-2001 20:52

Re: unsolicited email - nql


Brett, Sterling, all Just did a quick search on Google using "[larry--ecotope--com]" and got some interesting results: REBOL Userlist Archive ... [larry--ecotope--com] --- [REBOL] Re: web site authentication --- 1-Dec-2000: [gchiu--compkarori--co--nz] --- [REBOL] Re: web site authentication --- 27-Jan-2001: ... www.rebol.org/userlist/html/threads-161.html - 10k - Cached - Similar pages REBOL Userlist Archive ... Nov-2000: [larry--ecotope--com] --- [REBOL] Re: Troube Calling Function within Object --- 28-Nov-2000: ... www.rebol.org/userlist/html/threads-160.html - 17k - Cached - Similar pages [ More results from www.rebol.org ] eScribe: REBOL: Message: [REBOL] Re: [ANN] a new reb site ... ... My reb site can now be accessed through its own icon in Larry's Ecotope reb site. Also, have a look at Larry's work on fractals, it's fantastic ! DocKimbel ... www.escribe.com/internet/rebol/m5505.html - 7k - Cached - Similar pages Apparently the rebol.org user list was crawled in Nov 2000 and Jan 2001. The eScribe site which is currently active does not list the email address in the msgs, but the web crawler found it somewhere (undisplayed) on the page. The nqli email appears to be a simple straight-forward email directly to me from Dave Gomez at nqli. Here is the header:
>From [dave--gomez--nqli--com] Sat Apr 21 12:20:44 2001
Received: by mail.ecotope.com from localhost (router,SLMail V2.7); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:20:44 -0700 Received: by mail.ecotope.com from NQLMAIL1.nqli.com (12.146.193.31::mail daemon; unverified,SLMail V2.7); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:20:43 -0700 Received: from nqli.com (bbethke.nqli.com [172.16.200.121]) by NQLMAIL1.nqli.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id J2S29M9F; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:17:08 -0700 From: Dave Gomez <[dave--gomez--nqli--com]> To: "Larry Palmiter" <[larry--ecotope--com]> Received: by mail.ecotope.com from localhost (router,SLMail V2.7); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:20:44 -0700 Received: by mail.ecotope.com from NQLMAIL1.nqli.com (12.146.193.31::mail daemon; unverified,SLMail V2.7); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:20:43 -0700 Received: from nqli.com (bbethke.nqli.com [172.16.200.121]) by NQLMAIL1.nqli.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id J2S29M9F; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:17:08 -0700 From: Dave Gomez <[dave--gomez--nqli--com]> To: "Larry Palmiter" <[larry--ecotope--com]> Cc: @ecotope.com Bcc: <> Date: 21 Apr 2001 12:17:07 -0700 (PST) Subject: NQL: a shorthand for Internet programming Hope this throws some light on the situation. -Larry

 [20/34] from: allen:aussieweb:au at: 23-Apr-2001 15:08


> The eScribe site which is currently active does not list the email address > in the msgs, but the web crawler found it somewhere (undisplayed) on the > page. >
Address details are shown in the body of the reply messages at eScribe, so they are not really doing a lot to filter out email addresses. e.g. On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:49:29 +1000 "Allen Kamp" <[allenk--powerup--com--au]> wrote: -SNIP- I wonder how many of the people who clamoured for an archive are still around anyway? :-p Cheers, Allen K Some archives in outlook express mailbox folder format are available for download here (no spam) http://www.rebolforces.com/archive/list/

 [21/34] from: kolla:nvg:ntnu:no at: 23-Apr-2001 8:02


On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Deryk Robosson wrote:
> Brett Handley wrote: > > > > Anyone else here received unsolicited commercial email from nqli.com? > > Just testing a theory they've been trawling this list. > > Yup, added a filter for it this morning to throw them to the bit bucket.
Some time ago I started doing it the other way around, filter what's really for me to my inbox, what belongs to various lists to their respectiv folders, the rest ends up in a spam folder that I check once in a while. Since then reading mail has became much easier. :) -- kolla

 [22/34] from: g:santilli:tiscalinet:it at: 23-Apr-2001 14:43


Andrew Martin wrote:
> I haven't -- yet. Perhaps I've been too quiet?
I've got it too, and I've been quieter than you lately. :) I got it both on [g--santilli--tiscalinet--it] and [giesse--writeme--com]... Regards, Gabriele. -- Gabriele Santilli <[giesse--writeme--com]> - Amigan - REBOL programmer Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila -- http://www.amyresource.it/AGI/

 [23/34] from: rebol:programmer at: 23-Apr-2001 6:05


I got it too... but only at my old address (which I still use for the ALLY list).. not at this one. Cal

 [24/34] from: brett:codeconscious at: 24-Apr-2001 0:00


Thanks Larry, The headers look like the ones in the emails I received too. I guess nqli just successfully communicated their integrity as a company - perhaps not their original intention. Anyway, back to Rebol and RT - thankfully a much more reasonable group of people. Brett.

 [25/34] from: deadzaphod:programmer at: 22-Apr-2001 15:21


I got it too... but only at my old address (which I still use for the ALLY list).. not at this one. Cal

 [26/34] from: dmurrill:mindspring at: 23-Apr-2001 8:57


I got it also, ifany findthe culprit post it please i would like to block em.

 [27/34] from: jelinem1:nationwide at: 23-Apr-2001 12:55


At $495 for the Standard Edition, NQL is a real bargain! Uh, yeah. - Michael Jelinek Brett Handley <[brett--codeconscious--com]>@rebol.com on 04/21/2001 08:39:35 PM From: "Brett Handley" <[brett--codeconscious--com]>@rebol.com on 04/21/2001 08:39 PM Please respond to [rebol-list--rebol--com] Sent by: [rebol-bounce--rebol--com] To: <[ally-list--rebol--com]> <[rebol-list--rebol--com]> cc: Subject: [REBOL] unsolicited email - nql Anyone else here received unsolicited commercial email from nqli.com? Just testing a theory they've been trawling this list. Thanks, Brett. --- http://www.codeconscious.com

 [28/34] from: ryanc::iesco-dms::com at: 23-Apr-2001 11:44

NQL-Bye.r


My response to to the NQL affair: REBOL [ file: %NQL-Bye.r purpose: "Sends message to all of NQLi staff." ] my-email-address: ask "Enter your email address: " my-name: ask "Enter your name/signature: " nql-addresses: [ [info--nqli--com] [marketing--nqli--com] [investors--nqli--com] [press--nqli--com] [employment--nqli--com] [webmaster--nqli--com] [dave--gomez--nqli--com] ] message: rejoin [ {Re: Unsolicited Email Dear NQLi, Please do not send unsolicited emails to my address } my-email-address {. Please do not share or rent any information associated with my email address, } {and remove it from your database. Thank you for your prompt compliance, } my-name ] foreach address nql-addresses [ either error? try [ send address message ] [ print [ "Error notifying" address ] ] [ print ["Notified" address] ] ] confirm "Notification completed."

 [29/34] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 23-Apr-2001 21:12


----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Cole" <[ryanc--iesco-dms--com]> To: <[rebol-list--rebol--com]> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 8:44 PM Subject: [REBOL] NQL-Bye.r
> My response to to the NQL affair: > REBOL [
<<quoted lines omitted: 12>>
> [dave--gomez--nqli--com] > ]
foreach address nql-addressess [ loop 100000 [send address "....just to let you know what spam means!"] ] and if they check for the source, let's run whole network of rebols and terrorize them to death ... who's gonna win? ;-) well, just kidding of course :-) -pekr-

 [30/34] from: ryanc:iesco-dms at: 23-Apr-2001 12:42


Petr Krenzelok wrote:
<snip> > foreach address nql-addressess [ > loop 100000 [send address "....just to let you know what spam > means!"] > ]
</snip> This is my favorite I reserve for nastiest perpetrators, (not NQL): rebol [ Title: "Dial Away" Date: 18-Dec-2000 File: %dialaway.r Purpose: { I strictly discourage you to use it all weekend long to continously dial those toll free numbers left by spammers. The tolls are much higher during weekdays! } ] dial-away: does [ phone-nums: parse/all phone-numbers-text/text "^/" quit-time: now + to-time time-to-run/text sp: open/mode/with serial://port1/9600/none [write read string no-wait] "^M" until [ to-call-position: random length? phone-nums to-call: rejoin ["atdt " pick phone-nums to-call-position "^/"] insert sp to-call wait [30] print copy sp now > quit-time ] close sp ] view layout [ title "Dial-Away" guide label "Numbers:" phone-numbers-text: area return label "Time to run (hh:mm): " time-to-run: field tab button "Dial Away" [dial-away] button "Cancel" [quit] ]

 [31/34] from: tomc:darkwing:uoregon at: 24-Apr-2001 21:33

[ALLY] Re: unsolicited email - nql


I did report it as spam to abuse@<whatever>.net where <whatever> is the .net name closest above them when I did a traceroute. maybe if more people do this they could get their account yanked. On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Anton wrote:

 [32/34] from: arolls:bigpond:au at: 24-Apr-2001 22:04


Yes, I got it too. And preferred that I didn't. Anton.

 [33/34] from: mike:yaunish:home at: 28-Apr-2001 22:56

NQL - a REBOL dialect?


Just got wind of this NQL whitepaper at http://www.nqli.com/technology/whitepaper/default2.asp Looks suspiciously like a favorite programming language I know. Nice try anyway for $495.00 This bodes well for us REBOLutionaries. Mike Yaunish [mike--yaunish--home--com]

 [34/34] from: pa::russo::perd::com at: 29-Apr-2001 8:50


>Just got wind of this NQL whitepaper at >http://www.nqli.com/technology/whitepaper/default2.asp
<<quoted lines omitted: 3>>
>Mike Yaunish >[mike--yaunish--home--com]
Wow Mike! How did you succeed in digging out this whitepaper? Perhaps, the fact NQLI is spamming the participants to this list every other day helped a bit, didn't it? :-) They begin to be reaaaally annoying. -- Paolo Russo [pa--russo--perd--com] _________________ PERD s.r.l. Virtual Technologies for Real Solutions http://www.perd.com

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