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[REBOL] Re: Browsers ,vim Vs. Emacs etc....

From: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 18-Mar-2002 6:23

Joel Neely wrote:
>Hi, Petr, > >Petr Krenzelok wrote: > >>Hmm, what is the problem? :-) I did some work here. We use CICS >>systems in our company (till we move fully to SAP R3). Guys >>prepare download/job for us... The record has fixed length >>field structure and that is important... >> >>Well, I either don't understand the problem correctly, or I just >>can find out, why to call such trivial task being an AI issue :-) >> > >I wasn't thinking about the cases when I'm handed a fixed-record >data file with documentation of the field layouts, nor the cases >in which someone else has done the work to format/download the >data for me. (I wish life were always that simple...) > >I'm thinking of those times when I've had the fun of figuring out >the data layout for myself after being handed a file without the >necessary documentation, for a variety of reasons: > >- there's no documentation nor source code for the creation of > the file, > >- it was data extracted from a proprietary package from a defunct > vendor, > >- the file was custom-constructed by someone who has since left > the company, the city, the country, and (possibly) this earth; >
:-)) ... or the file comes from some UFO? ;-) Well, generally speaking - it is a bad situation, if you have to analyse some data with zero level info ...
>- etc... > >The reason I refer to the task as AI-like is that a human being, >especially one who knows the problem domain, can often make good >guesses/inferences about field positions/locations based on such >things as common encoded data, familiar items (e.g. dates, times, >employee or account numbers, monetary figures, etc.) However, >such inferences/guesses are often context sensitive and subject >to change as more data become available. >
Yes. I am not sure some kind of AI based automat can sort it out properly. I too, ended in situation when I obtained mainframe csv file, not knowing the structure. We did it manually that way - we started to define .dbf file, guessing what the structure could be. What helped us was, we knew what some data mean/represent (e.g. recognising customer name, contract description, etc.) ... So, I can leave this thread, as I have really no knowledge of how to build the system you described. I have even never seen something along the lines of AI automat digging into some data .... -pekr-