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[REBOL] xwire (was: Re: Re: pliant)

From: media::quazart::com at: 5-Oct-2001 12:12

Hi pekr, interest!? ;-) he he... that's why I kept it undefined... I'm keeping the exact specs to myself for now, because I'm not sure to what extent it will be developped. The possibilities are very cool. It be different than just a "sharing" system. It will allow the application to serve itself . In a way, me and myself makes sense with wire! Short answer : I don't want to put my foot in my mouth so this is why I'm not being too volubile right now about xwire itself and what it is "potentially" capable of. BUT ;-) xwire will be a way to deploy and connect data BOTH internally and externally to a program. So far it is intended for p2p... no server is needed, only the existence of other nodes. Long answer (history): xwire is a design which stems from several years of musing on another project... Virtuaal... the Idea for xwire itself started when working with BOOPSI!!! for those of you who do not know what it is, it is an Amiga compiler-independent object-oriented programming design which includes notification. It was mainly used to build GUIs. Actually, I hated BOOPSI but it sparked my mind in to thinking of a glorious new way of using computers in whole. One where Data is "AWARE" and one where ALL data actually has intent and meaning... a.k.a. meta data and handlers. xwire is only a little part of that paradigm, but with the current popularity of p2p and anything related... its a good time to work on it. I don't think xwire (by itself) is a revolution, but its just -my- approach on a distributed way of using data. xwire is just part of an Operating Environement (like amigaDE and a bit like IOS) that I have designed 8 years ago (a 20 page document!). So far, in many ways, I am still ahead in terms of how it all works... but I'm slowly loosing ground ;-) The OE itself was called virtuaal... it defines more than 15 different modules which can ALL plug-in to each other... darn that looks like ios... but virtuaal was more concerned with the core layer than the application layer. In a sense I guess its akin to IOS. I have to say that Carl has been beating me to some of the projects I have designed on (electronic) paper. REBOL resembles something (in philosophy and in MANY intricate details) I had designed for virtuaal... I have as my main problem, a lack of time and resources (actually I have too many ideas for the time I have to spend on them)... so most of my "wild" ideas go down the drain, because EVENTUALLY, I hear of a project which practically describes what I had -designed- a few years before... MUI is another great example of a project which I got beaten to. Back to xwire... SO, I finally decided to give myself a kick in the ass and try to actually implement wire. It will help me to code my own apps and also will help me for the creation of the documentation and REBOL resource site that I've been wanting to build for about a year. Next week is the official start of implementation. As features are functional, I will post a document explaining it. I will publish the source, once it works well enough to build some fully working examples and solid documentation. It will ALL be mirrored as freeware on my (still really skimpy, sorry) XAOS reb site. It will be a while... first releases are maybe still a month away. Lately I have changed jobs and have had to work on my house, so its all pretty complicated to put time on personal projects... especially with a cute little kid running around the computer and a lovely girlfriend needing attention. ;-) -Max ---------------------- xaos at your service ---------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Petr Krenzelok" <[Petr--Krenzelok--trz--cz]> To: <[rebol-list--rebol--com]> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:06 AM S4ubject: [REBOL] Re: pliant