[REBOL] Re: Czech Sort (was Re: I miss ..., bug in to-local-file ...)
From: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 10-Jun-2001 1:19
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From: "GS Jones" <[gjones05--mail--orion--org]>
To: <[rebol-list--rebol--com]>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 2:23 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Czech Sort (was Re: I miss ..., bug in to-local-file ...)
> Hi, PeKr, Cyphre, (Ladislav, others?), Volker,
>
> I was distracted last night trying to figure out the plugin problem for
IE.
> Many hours spent; nothing to show for it.
>
> Anyway, this morning I completed my reference table. Some of the letters
were
> very tricky to find. I basically scanned PeKr's companies pages for the
> letters, then looked at the source to determine the single byte code/char
> representation. I think I can read Czech now .... not! ;-)
>
> I used a language list reference to get all the alphabet. This list did
not
> list "ch" as a separate character. I tried to put the letters in order
based on
> the references I found and PeKr's instructions. This list follows the
> questions. Please look over the list to check for completeness and
accuracy of
> order (hopefully I got the byte codes correct).
I am sorry I have not found free time to respond earlier! "Ch" is not single
character! It is still TWO characters - the sort sequence is, however,
different from english one:
a b c d e f g h "ch" i j k l m n .....
so above is a little bit Czech special case ....
a b c c^ d d^ ..... don't know how to express myself in english, but imagine
^
being upon "c", and rotated in 180 degrees :-)
.. maybe a little composed image could help?
http://www.rebol.cz/~can/rebol-view/czech-alphabet.png
> First, my questions:
> 1) Does the uppercase version of "ch" look like "Ch" or "CH"?
Ch
- still two letters ... just sorted as being one ...
> 2) A sort/case in REBOL normally puts the uppercase versions before the
lower
> case versions. Would this be acceptable? PeKr mentioned that "lowercase
> letters first, uppercase follows". Does this mean that a sort/case should
> ideally put the lower case version before an upper case version?
I am not sure about that one ....
> Now, for my reference table. The column abbreviations may be obvious (-:,
but
> here is the translation:
> Dec: Decimal representation of the single computer byte representation of
the
> letter
> UnD: The decimal representation of the Unicode word (meaning 2 bytes) for
the
> letter (here for future use, if needed)
> L: ASCII letters linguist use to refer to letters
> UnHx: Unicode Hex for the letter
> Description: Linguistic description of letters
>
> Reference table version 0.1 (I have a lot of confidence, don't I? ;-)
> (best viewed with fixed width font)
>
> Dec UnD L UnHx Description
> 97 97 a 0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A
> 225 225 a' 00e1 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE
> 98 98 b 0062 LATIN SMALL LETTER B
> 99 99 c 0063 LATIN SMALL LETTER C
> 232 269 c< 010d LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH CARON
> 100 100 d 0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D
> 239 271 d< 010f LATIN SMALL LETTER D WITH CARON
> 101 101 e 0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E
> 233 233 e' 00e9 LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE
> 236 283 e< 011b LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH CARON
> 102 102 f 0066 LATIN SMALL LETTER F
> 103 103 g 0067 LATIN SMALL LETTER G
> 104 104 h 0068 LATIN SMALL LETTER H
> ch special character combination
> 105 105 i 0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I
> 237 237 i' 00ed LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH ACUTE
> 106 106 j 006a LATIN SMALL LETTER J
> 107 107 k 006b LATIN SMALL LETTER K
> 108 108 l 006c LATIN SMALL LETTER L
> 109 109 m 006d LATIN SMALL LETTER M
> 110 110 n 006e LATIN SMALL LETTER N
> 242 328 n< 0148 LATIN SMALL LETTER N WITH CARON
> 111 111 o 006f LATIN SMALL LETTER O
> 243 243 o' 00f3 LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH ACUTE
> 112 112 p 0070 LATIN SMALL LETTER P
> 113 113 q 0071 LATIN SMALL LETTER Q
> 114 114 r 0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R
> 248 345 r< 0159 LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH CARON
> 115 115 s 0073 LATIN SMALL LETTER S
> 185 353 s< 0161 LATIN SMALL LETTER S WITH CARON
> 116 116 t 0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T
> 187 357 t< 0165 LATIN SMALL LETTER T WITH CARON
> 117 117 u 0075 LATIN SMALL LETTER U
> 249 367 u0 016f LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH RING ABOVE
> 250 250 u' 00fa LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH ACUTE
> 118 118 v 0076 LATIN SMALL LETTER V
> 119 119 w 0077 LATIN SMALL LETTER W
> 120 120 x 0078 LATIN SMALL LETTER X
> 121 121 y 0079 LATIN SMALL LETTER Y
> 253 253 ' 00fd LATIN SMALL LETTER Y WITH ACUTE
> 122 122 z 007a LATIN SMALL LETTER Z
> 190 382 z< 017e LATIN SMALL LETTER Z WITH CARON
> 65 65 A 0041 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A
> 193 193 A' 00c1 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH ACUTE
> 66 66 B 0042 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER B
> 67 67 C 0043 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C
> 200 268 C< 010c LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C WITH CARON
> 68 68 D 0044 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D
> 207 270 D< 010e LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D WITH CARON
> 69 69 E 0045 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E
> 201 201 E' 00c9 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E WITH ACUTE
> 204 282 E< 011a LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E WITH CARON
> 70 70 F 0046 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER F
> 71 71 G 0047 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER G
> 72 72 H 0048 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER H
> Ch special character combination
> 73 73 I 0049 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I
> 205 205 I' 00cd LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I WITH ACUTE
> 74 74 J 004a LATIN CAPITAL LETTER J
> 75 75 K 004b LATIN CAPITAL LETTER K
> 76 76 L 004c LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L
> 77 77 M 004d LATIN CAPITAL LETTER M
> 78 78 N 004e LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N
> 210 327 N< 0147 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N WITH CARON
> 79 79 O 004f LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O
> 211 211 O' 00d3 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH ACUTE
> 80 80 P 0050 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER P
> 81 81 Q 0051 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Q
> 82 82 R 0052 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER R
> 216 344 R< 0158 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER R WITH CARON
> 83 83 S 0053 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER S
> 169 352 S< 0160 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER S WITH CARON
> 84 84 T 0054 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER T
> 171 356 T< 0164 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER T WITH CARON
> 85 85 U 0055 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U
> 217 366 U0 016e LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U WITH RING ABOVE
> 218 218 U' 00da LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U WITH ACUTE
> 86 86 V 0056 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER V
> 87 87 W 0057 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER W
> 88 88 X 0058 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER X
> 89 89 Y 0059 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y
> 221 221 Y' 00dd LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y WITH ACUTE
> 90 90 Z 005a LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Z
> 174 381 Z< 017d LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Z WITH CARON
>
> I look forward to hearing from you and the next step (by the way, Volker,
I only
> briefly looked through your code last night for the reason I've already
> explained; I will look more carefully when I go to the next step.
Thanks!)
I will check once I get at my work to look to some of our dbase char
sorting. However - I just asked about sorting. I not necessarily needed you
spend all of your free time solving my problems :-) Anyway - thanks a lot
for taking care!
Cheers,
-pekr-
