[REBOL] Re: plugins rebol question again
From: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 13-Nov-2002 23:53
>Saturday, November 9, 2002, 12:02:17 PM, you wrote:
>ps> And now strategic question :
>ps> I don't know position of rebol about no plug ins rebol in a browser
>ps> like mozilla or netscape 7 (gecko engine).
>ps> For a total deploiement in a compagny , it's easy WITH a plug ins ,
>ps> and easy to use for the end user.
>ps> For reboltech to deploy their technology . Look at SUN with his Java
>ps> Web Start
>I think that Carl has his own vision that it's better to run Rebol
>outside from browsers... and the true is, that it's better if you
>don't need a lot of random visitors. The biggest problem with the
>Rebol plugin is a security.
How can it be a problem? The script lives in a sandbox - if user agrees
to let script touch outside the sandbox, then well ...
> I can imagine a lot of unfriendly pages
>with embedded Rebol waiting to make something bad!
>PS: I would like to have Rebol plugin as well, but you know it - there
>are priorities (and I would like to have rich text in Rebol sooner then
>Rebol in the browser).
I still think it could help sprea rebol. I also think, that while
rebol-in-a-browser would be cool, it is not necessity. It would be good
to have rebol running in external window from the start. But how to make
rebol behave like other plugi-ins? Let's suppose your page refers to
rebol plug-in. You then download View, but will browser be able to start
its install process? I have some idea of rebol plug-in in a form of some
kind of Encapped app (player), which would be able to "play" packages
(reblets in .r, or .rip format, or stuff packed by preprocessor). There
would have to be the way to check for new rebol updates and allow to
download them. But I am not sure if it is possible or not. Is there any
js code which can let us download and run/install rebol?
>PPS: I still remember some computers, I was working on, where I had
>no rights to install anything (no Flash and other plugins!) For such a
>cases is Rebol the best, because you don't neet to install it,
>just unpack and run.
I think it is not true. It is already quite some time Rebol/View uses
registry, while I think that it is not really needed. What is more -
there seem to be some bug too - if your start rebol from non rebol.exe
directory, even using -i switch, it will start with install process
(reported to feedback some year or more ago). Because of registry, I
can't easily use/carry IOS on my USB pocket drive, as it will sync to hd
installation IOS dir, not the one I start IOS from.