[FYI] A new interface paradigm without the usual windows ...

Hi Robert, Just in case it interests you - and I know it will ;-) , I received this article from Inside PC MAgazine and I thought it could be interesting for a future app. written in REBOL - who knows ??? ------------------------------------------------------------------ News: The Anti Interface Virtually everyone who computes is familiar with the image metaphors used by Windows and the Macintosh OS for interface manipulation and navigation. They are the standards most of us live by. But a new product on the block has an experimental interface that tosses out the conventions we know and don't always love. Is this new approach useful? Is it important? Read our news analysis to find out. http://eletters.pcmag.com/zd1/cts?d=81-455-1-1-56979-31564-1 If you prefer to go directly to the article by yourself follow this link: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1435152,00.asp -------------------------------------------------------------------- By the way I also visited your web site recently - very interesting look and feel - to find more about your most recent version of MAKE DOC PRO. I found in the history that version 1.0.8 is the most recent but I only found it into the REBOL Library and no DOC was available on your site either. Is there a particular reason except may be for missing time ? During this time I looked to the inside of your engine to know more and I experimented with some variations like =toc and a few others. It's working like a breeze. Great work. What I miss the most is how to to indent paragraphs correctly. My last result left me perplexed about the way to use it in some circumstances. In another area did you think about the way to include some META keywords to enclose into the HEADER section of the generated HTML page during the generation process. May be some external MDP-prefs.r would be a place to look at for inclusion of such particular things. I also would try your last REBOL FRAMEWORK very soon since I began again to experiment with coding. Can I get it too and where can I find it ? It will be a pleasure to put online my next Web Documentation using your MDP tool. And when I am about it - can you send me a model on which I could base my own Web site design - I want it to look similar in some way to your own - menus and the like... Keep up the good work Robert. Hope to be useful in a near future - more than in the past ... Thanks, Gerard

On 18-Jan-04, Gerard Cote wrote:

> Hi Robert, > Just in case it interests you - and I know it will ;-) , I received > link: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1435152,00.asp > --------------------------------------------------------------------

I downloaded and played with it a bit on Friday. I was very underwhelmed. It's an interesting approach, but ultimately it felt like an experimental learning environment. FYI: There's an interesting review on OS News: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5687 ----- Original Msg ----- Carl Read wrote:

> or go directly to the software's homepage at http://www.nbor.com/ and > download a demo - if you're a Win2000 or XP user. (Not too > -- > Carl Read

On 18-Jan-04, Ed O'Connor wrote:

> I downloaded and played with it a bit on Friday. I was very > underwhelmed. It's an interesting approach, but ultimately it felt > like an experimental learning environment. > FYI: There's an interesting review on OS News: > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5687

> Creating a genuinely better GUI is doable, but it requires a > painstaking amount of user research, testing and refinement. Most > and eventually it gets incorporated in GUI toolkits. Maybe something > will shake out of NBOR.

> Long-shot bets are fun, but I wouldn't advise RT to go into more > experimental areas until they have a standard widget set well > implemented.

> The current minimum set is probably HTML (mixed with > whatever can be done with DOM/Javascript)-- which is a respectably > high standard. Does anyone know if the VID project has published > list of VID improvements on the way?

> With regard to being sick of WIMP interfaces, amen. I'm hoping we'll > see some creative interfaces that provide CLI/console productivity > integrated in rich interfaces. Kinda hard to describe what that > would look like, though!

Hi all, when you are really interested in innovative desktop technology, you should also have a look at http://www.opencroquet.org/ Croquet is based on the opensource smalltalk Squeak http://www.squeak.org/ which itself is a quite attractive development environment. Kind regards, Arie van Wingerden ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerard Cote" <[gerardcote--sympatico--ca]> To: <[rebol-list--rebol--com]> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 4:32 PM Subject: [REBOL] [FYI] A new interface paradigm without the usual windows ....