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 [1/4] from: nick:guitarz at: 1-Dec-2008 9:25


Hi everyone, I'm wondering if RT has ever considered creating a Rebol runtime that runs in the Flash plugin? The possibilities for deployment would be fantastic. Is that at all a possibility for the future?

 [2/4] from: compkarori::gmail::com at: 1-Dec-2008 19:35


Nick What's wrong with the Rebol plugin ( being updated! ) On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Nick Antonaccio <nick-guitarz.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone, > I'm wondering if RT has ever considered creating a Rebol runtime that
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 [3/4] from: nick:guitarz at: 2-Dec-2008 6:21


Hi Graham, It's great to hear that the plugin is being updated! I have no complaints about the plug-in - it's just that flash has so much penetration these days, and allows deployment to so many platforms. So many devices already have flash installed, and it's trusted. Flash is available off the shelf in just about every browser, and in mobile devices. Users are familiar with it, so there are very few worries about getting permission to install and use it. Instead of trying to keep up with changes in browser technology, targeting a version of REBOL for flash runtime would automatically provide seamless support for an enormous percentage of the web environment (along with a big chunk of mobile and desktop too) - and that support is only going to improve. I can imagine that a flash/REBOL interpreter might also attract a a whole new crowd of developers :) If it's possible to create, I'd think it'd be much easier to maintain an installed base of Rebol interpreters in the the browser via flash, instead of targeting each independent browser, even as browser technology changes (let Adobe do the work of adapting their run-time). I think it's safe to say that support for existing versions of Flash probably won't fade away any time in the near future... Maybe those are some potential benefits to think about... Is it even possible to create a Rebol interpreter that runs in the Flash runtime? - Nick ps - One of the things that drove my initial interest in Rebol was the ability to run my scripts on just about any machine. Things have changed since then. In the past, we chose operating systems to run our apps on. Now we choose browsers and devices. I've been playing with openlaszlo lately, and I'm smitten by its ability to compile to flash and dhtml, because I know that just about anyone who wants to run anything I create in it will be able to run those apps immediately. Maybe we'd like to make the issue more complex then that, but that fact is true - between flash and dhtml, I can run laszlo apps on just about any machine, immediately. I'd LOVE to have a flash platform version of REBOL - it would breath a whole new life and usefulness into my favorite tool :) Quoting Graham Chiu <compkarori-gmail.com>:

 [4/4] from: petr:krenzelok:seznam:cz at: 3-Dec-2008 14:11


Nick Antonaccio napsal(a):
> Hi Graham, > > It's great to hear that the plugin is being updated!
I am not sure you translated it correctly. Maybe above sentence means, that if we update plug-in, it is the way to go, and not to port REBOL to Flash. Some language gurus would have to comment here, but I am not sure, we can easily port REBOL to Flash, JAVA, or other VM, without significant loss. Remember - in order to get View working, you need parser, you need REBOL itself, so you would have to port whole REBOL to particular VM. Some guys were thinking the other way - making VID to html (css, js, ajax), VID to Flash translator. But then it would fit only for limited subset of language. I don't expect every low level View code to work. But once again - this one is for gurus. But - there is also the third way - once R3 is released, it is 80% being open sourced. All host codes are going to be released. So I expect to R3 to span new platforms much more easily than it was with R2 (dependant on RT only). Of course having R3 itself running on particular platform still does not mean we will have it running in browser. But browser-plug-in should be another strategic component imo. -pekr-

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