The shoebox
[1/20] from: agem:crosswinds at: 18-Jun-2001 16:01
RE: [REBOL] The shoebox
[allenk--powerup--com--au] wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I've just put a whole stack of REBOL memorabillia on the RF site.
>
> http://www.rebolforces.com/shoebox/readme.txt
>
> http://www.rebolforces.com/shoebox/
>
Hi Allan!
your site seems a bit rebdoted :)
nice stuff, adds another personal connection to rebol-community :)
-Volker
[2/20] from: agem:crosswinds at: 18-Jun-2001 16:01
RE: [REBOL] Re: The shoebox
[steve--shireman--semaxwireless--com] wrote:
> Before it was called Lava, it was called Mime (IIRC), but not sure of
> the date--a guru would have to speak on this. (maybe Viscorp days?)
>
there are some memories on the reb-wiki ?
[3/20] from: agem:crosswinds at: 18-Jun-2001 16:01
RE: [REBOL] Re: The shoebox
[Petr--Krenzelok--trz--cz] wrote:
> Kolbjørn Barmen wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, GS Jones wrote:
<<quoted lines omitted: 7>>
> well, we are "almost" there - we do have compositing engine. But who would
> write the whole underlying layer? :-)
the native-oberon-guys? :)
-Volker
[4/20] from: joel:neely:fedex at: 18-Jun-2001 9:57
I believe the sequence was
ABL/E -> LAVA -> REBOL
-jn-
Petr Krenzelok wrote:
> Steve Shireman wrote:
>
> > Before it was called Lava, it was called Mime (IIRC), but not sure of
> > the date--a guru would have to speak on this. (maybe Viscorp days?)
> >
>
> No, it was not imo called Mime :-) - it was called A\BLE. Carl - who wins the
> beer - me or Steve? :-)
--
___ ___ ___
\/ 2 + \/ 2 = 4 (for sufficiently large approximations of \/ 2 )
joel'dot'neely'at'fedex'dot'com
[5/20] from: allenk:powerup:au at: 18-Jun-2001 21:08
Hi All,
I've just put a whole stack of REBOL memorabillia on the RF site.
http://www.rebolforces.com/shoebox/readme.txt
http://www.rebolforces.com/shoebox/
Cheers,
Allen K
[6/20] from: gjones05:mail:orion at: 18-Jun-2001 6:41
From: "Allen Kamp"
> I've just put a whole stack of REBOL memorabillia on the RF site.
>
> http://www.rebolforces.com/shoebox/readme.txt
>
> http://www.rebolforces.com/shoebox/
Hi, Allen,
I have already been picking through the shoebox. Neat stuff! I accidentally
spilled a drop of coffee on one of the docs ... sorry!
I was hoping to find the explanation of the change from LAVA to REBOL. I
couldn't find it, but I'm sure that someone on the list knows!
Thanks for sharing the mementos.
--Scott Jones
[7/20] from: chris::starforge::demon::co::uk at: 18-Jun-2001 13:02
GS Jones wrote:
> I was hoping to find the explanation of the change from LAVA to REBOL. I
> couldn't find it, but I'm sure that someone on the list knows!
Just a guess - trademark issues.
I've found that legal reasons are responsible for 90% of name changes
and stuff, and trademark disputes probably constitute a good 50 or 60%
of them..
Cynical Chris
[8/20] from: kolla:nvg:ntnu:no at: 18-Jun-2001 14:07
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, GS Jones wrote:
> I was hoping to find the explanation of the change from LAVA to REBOL. I
> couldn't find it, but I'm sure that someone on the list knows!
Hey, hohum.. where's MagmaOS these days? :)
-- kolla
[9/20] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 18-Jun-2001 14:37
Chris wrote:
> GS Jones wrote:
>
> > I was hoping to find the explanation of the change from LAVA to REBOL. I
> > couldn't find it, but I'm sure that someone on the list knows!
>
> Just a guess - trademark issues.
No, - IIRC Carl told us that the name change was suggested to him by few ppl.
Lava was too similar to Java ....
-pekr-
[10/20] from: steve:shireman:semaxwireless at: 18-Jun-2001 7:52
Before it was called Lava, it was called Mime (IIRC), but not sure of
the date--a guru would have to speak on this. (maybe Viscorp days?)
| |
|^|_____
(________) ankle
...putting you a foot a head...
Kolbjørn Barmen wrote:
[11/20] from: joel:neely:fedex at: 18-Jun-2001 2:41
Hey, Allen,
***** * * * * * * * * * *** * *
* * * * * ** * * * * * * * * *
* ***** ***** * * * *** *** * * * *
* * * * * * ** * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * *** *** ****
for making those "treasures" available to the rest of us!
Allen Kamp wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I've just put a whole stack of REBOL memorabillia on the RF
> site.
>
> http://www.rebolforces.com/shoebox/readme.txt
>
> http://www.rebolforces.com/shoebox/
>
Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it.
- Santayana -
-jn-
PS: I almost included the oft-quoted
"Those who forget Unix are condemned to re-implement it
-- badly!"
but decided that might be too political! ;-)
------------------------------------------------------------
Programming languages: compact, powerful, simple ...
Pick any two!
joel'dot'neely'at'fedex'dot'com
[12/20] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 18-Jun-2001 14:43
Kolbjørn Barmen wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, GS Jones wrote:
>
> > I was hoping to find the explanation of the change from LAVA to REBOL. I
> > couldn't find it, but I'm sure that someone on the list knows!
>
> Hey, hohum.. where's MagmaOS these days? :)
>
hehe :-) http://www.rebolforces.com/shoebox/1997-02-26/
well, we are "almost" there - we do have compositing engine. But who would
write the whole underlying layer? :-)
-pekr-
[13/20] from: gjones05:mail:orion at: 18-Jun-2001 8:03
From: "Joel Neely"
...
> "Those who forget Unix are condemned to re-implement it
> -- badly!"
LOL!!
--Scott Jones
[14/20] from: gjones05:mail:orion at: 18-Jun-2001 8:00
> > GS Jones wrote:
> > > I was hoping to find the explanation of the change from LAVA to REBOL. I
> > > couldn't find it, but I'm sure that someone on the list knows!
From: "Petr Krenzelok"
> No, - IIRC Carl told us that the name change was suggested to him by few ppl.
> Lava was too similar to Java ....
That was my first thought when I heard the name a week or so ago. Lava would
sound more like a Java-type technology, which REBOL is "anything but" -- thank
goodness! Thanks Petr.
--Scott Jones
[15/20] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 18-Jun-2001 15:06
Steve Shireman wrote:
> Before it was called Lava, it was called Mime (IIRC), but not sure of
> the date--a guru would have to speak on this. (maybe Viscorp days?)
>
No, it was not imo called Mime :-) - it was called A\BLE. Carl - who wins the
beer - me or Steve? :-)
-pekr-
[16/20] from: jean:holzammer:faedv-n:bayern at: 18-Jun-2001 15:23
> I was hoping to find the explanation of the change from LAVA to REBOL. I
> couldn't find it, but I'm sure that someone on the list knows!
>
Maybe it's because there already existed a programming language
called LAVA. Some months ago I read a short article about it. It's a modular
language; code is a kind of byte code. But I don't now a link for more
information.
Jean
[17/20] from: carl:rebol at: 18-Jun-2001 15:38
ABL/E (1988-90) -> MIME (1990-96) -> Lava (1996-97) -> REBOL (1997-2337)
ABL/E = Abstraction based language / environment.
MIME = Machine independent multimedia environment.
Lava = Lava, hot stuff from the earth's core.
At 6/18/01 03:06 PM +0200, you wrote:
[18/20] from: ptretter:charter at: 18-Jun-2001 17:45
Cheer up Carl - don't set your sights so short (2337). Lets all aim high
and maybe we will land in the middle. (2337+) ahhh that sounds better...
Paul Tretter
[19/20] from: moeller_thorsten:gmx at: 19-Jun-2001 8:34
Hi,
What was meant, I think, was this language: http://sit.gmd.de/Lava/
Thorsten
[20/20] from: dness:home at: 19-Jun-2001 22:13
Holzammer, Jean
wrote:
> Maybe it's because there already existed a programming language
> called LAVA. Some months ago I read a short article about it. It's a modular
> language; code is a kind of byte code. But I don't now a link for more
> information.
>
> Jean
There was a language called LAVA that was used as a VLSI target language in the 1980s.
But I don't know, of course, if this `precluded' use...
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