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Shell productivity wish-list

 [1/15] from: jasonic:nomadics at: 10-Oct-2001 14:13


ok so I aplogize for being such a very bad typist... and maybe a little cranky today too, but a couple of simple things are driving me nuts in Rebol shell: 1. Fast skip hotkeys ie: CTRL + LEFT ARROW | RIGHT ARROW should jump one to prev/next word 2. Shell Selection ie: SHIFT + LEFT ARROW | RIGHT ARROW should select [highlight] it so it can be copied. 3. Fast Selection version of above ie: SHIFT + CTRL+ LEFTARROW | RIGHT ARROW should allow highlighting of words/phrases to allow faster copy'n'paste 4. Double click selection ie: Double click on any word in shell and it will select it for copying Did I miss some beginner how-to's or have these features really been neglected for the interesting and innovative stuff? If so, what would anyone suggest is the best way to add them? thanks -Jason

 [2/15] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 10-Oct-2001 22:26


I requested them some time ago, but no comments form RT back at that time .... name completion is cool, but what you describe is a must to feel like using real shell :-) -pekr-

 [3/15] from: jasonic:nomadics at: 10-Oct-2001 17:07


> I requested them some time ago, but no comments form RT back at that time > .... name completion is cool, but what you describe is a must to feel like > using real shell :-) > > -pekr-
Another one which would be _really_ useful to have: %history.r Could be installed by default next to %user.r which could store the params for history.r /size /refresh etc.. Could be a boost for learning, playing, debugging and also really handy for remote maintenance tasks. Could be loaded in interesting ways to create online tutorials for Rebol/Core Rebol/Command And then extended to allow Rebol/View to load 'history' files also. To help consistency, perhaps the header could be simailr to Index REBOL [Title: "History for Lesson 1" Type: 'history] Presumably all this could be implented now in some manner and then roll into REBOL 3++ when it has sufficient community validation... $0.02 - jason

 [4/15] from: sqlab:gmx at: 11-Oct-2001 9:35


> > I requested them some time ago, but no comments form RT back at that > time
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> $0.02 > - jason
The history of your commands is in system/console/history. So save/header %myhistory.r system/console/history [Title: {My Own History} Type: 'history] is up to you already. If i remember right, there was even at least one script working with the history some time ago on rebol.org, but I do not remember the name. AR

 [5/15] from: sqlab:gmx at: 11-Oct-2001 9:44


> ok so I aplogize for being such a very bad typist... and maybe a little > cranky today too, but a couple of simple things are driving me nuts in
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> thanks > -Jason
Sorry to disagree, but I don't like these features. I get always annoyed, if some unexpected happens. As long as there are the same events causing different reactions under different OS's or programs I get never accustomed to so called shortcuts. AR

 [6/15] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 11-Oct-2001 9:54


[sqlab--gmx--net] wrote:
> > ok so I aplogize for being such a very bad typist... and maybe a little > > cranky today too, but a couple of simple things are driving me nuts in
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> same events causing different reactions under different OS's or programs I get > never accustomed to so called shortcuts.
That's completly your problem :-)) -pekr-

 [7/15] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 11-Oct-2001 10:20


[sqlab--gmx--net] wrote:
> > > >
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> Rebol.) > How about you?
Well, we are talking console native behavior, not script level shortcuts, right? I think that EACH OS provides you with ability to cut and paste, as well as by-word skipping (ctrl + arrow), and by-word (ctrl + shift + arrow) or by-letter hilighting (shift + arrow under Win). It would be cool to have, as the way it is now, I have to touch mouse. End and Home keys already work, so why to miss others? I can bet that above mentioned behavior would not cause you any troubless or unexpected behavior during your console work, while many of us would welcome such features imo. -pekr-

 [8/15] from: sqlab:gmx at: 11-Oct-2001 10:11


> [sqlab--gmx--net] wrote: > >
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> That's completly your problem :-)) > -pekr-
Maybe, but i am quite content with the status quo regarding short cuts in Rebol.) How about you? AR

 [9/15] from: deadzaphod:flyingparty at: 11-Oct-2001 1:58


The new keyboard shortcuts sound ok, but I really don't like the double-click to select words.. That can happen too easily and have unexpected results, but how often do you accidentally press Ctrl-Alt-Rightarrow? ;-) Cal

 [10/15] from: holger:rebol at: 11-Oct-2001 3:06


On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 02:13:50PM -0400, Jason Cunliffe wrote:
> ok so I aplogize for being such a very bad typist... and maybe a little > cranky today too, but a couple of simple things are driving me nuts in Rebol
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> Did I miss some beginner how-to's or have these features really been > neglected for the interesting and innovative stuff?
Are you talking about Windows ? Because on most other platforms all of the features you mention are outside of the scope of the REBOL shell. Both the features and the control codes listed are inaccessible to REBOL, and would have to implemented within the terminal emulation client (xterm, or whatever else you use). As for Windows: please send the suggestions to [feedback--rebol--com] -- Holger Kruse [holger--rebol--com]

 [11/15] from: cyphre:seznam:cz at: 11-Oct-2001 15:55


Hi all console fans ;) Some time ago I started new project called "Rebol Virtual Console" which could be first part from the big project "Rebol developer's environment". It is just at the beginning but you can try latest version at my rebsite(desktop/sites/cyphre/vconsole). Please, try to use it instead of the native console because I need to test it a lot ;-) I would like to hear your comments, bugreports etc. Some info about the vconsole version 0.0.4: features: -99,9% ;-) emulation of code execution (don't hesitate to write me if you find any problems with any kind of rebol code) -commands history -cut,copy,paste -can be simply used in your View/Vid applications -done 50% of 'view 'unview emulation what you can expect in next versions: -cleaned-up the code ;) -the whole console will be VID style -ability of evaluating pasted text -customizable text buffer -slider for scrolling the text -possibility of opening multiple consoles in same Rebol process(choosing different console contexts...) -100% emulation of 'view, 'unview -word-completation using TAB -lots of useful/programable keyboard shortcuts -colored text output -another features from possible users feedback -and many more :-) This console would look always same on all systems so you won't need the system-dependent native one ;-) Regards Cyphre

 [12/15] from: gchiu:compkarori at: 12-Oct-2001 16:12


On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:55:57 +0200 "Cyphre" <[cyphre--seznam--cz]> wrote:
> is just at the beginning but you can try latest version > at my
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> I would like to hear your comments, bugreports etc. > Some info about the vconsole version 0.0.4:
Is it going to be resizable as well :) ?
> features: > -99,9% ;-) emulation of code execution (don't hesitate to
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> -another features from possible users feedback > -and many more :-)
-- Graham Chiu

 [13/15] from: arolls:idatam:au at: 12-Oct-2001 13:37


How nice, Cyphre! Good work. Keep it up. :)

 [14/15] from: cyphre:seznam:cz at: 12-Oct-2001 9:49


----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Chiu" <[gchiu--compkarori--co--nz]> To: <[rebol-list--rebol--com]> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 5:12 AM Subject: [REBOL] Re: Shell productivity wish-list
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:55:57 +0200 > "Cyphre" <[cyphre--seznam--cz]> wrote: > > > Some info about the vconsole version 0.0.4: > > Is it going to be resizable as well :) ? >
Sure, I forgot to add this to "next version features" ;-) regards, Cyphre

 [15/15] from: jasonic:nomadics at: 12-Oct-2001 6:57


wow This is great news! Thank you :-) ..looking forwards to testing it - Jason

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