Article: Web services next big thing for software

[1/6] from: slok00::yahoo::com at: 11-Jan-2002 14:48

- Web services next big thing for software Web services will be the "next big thing" and Microsoft has an early lead through its .Net initiative, according to market research firm Gartner Group. http://breakingnews.scmp.com/NLet/NLet.asp?Sec=technology&Id=ZZZ29E3M5WC

[2/6] from: chris:starforge:demon at: 11-Jan-2002 10:19

Lok Yek Soon wrote:

> Web services will be the "next big thing" and Microsoft has an early lead > through its .Net initiative, according to market research firm Gartner Group.

Only when they rig the polls. Otherwise people prefer Java so far ;) Chris -- .------{ http://www.starforge.co.uk }-----. .--------------------------. =[ Explorer2260, Designer and Coder \=\ P: TexMaker, ROACH, site \ =[___You_will_obey_your_corporate_masters___]==[ Stack: EETmTmTRRSS------ ]

[3/6] from: slok00:yaho:o at: 11-Jan-2002 6:37

--- Chris <[chris--starforge--demon--co--uk]> wrote:

> Lok Yek Soon wrote: > > Web services will be the "next big thing" and

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> Chris > --

here's some thoughts.... Won't REBOL be a suitable platform for "Web Services"? REBOL apps are in essence small in file size which make it easier to send-n-received. On top of it, the IOS platform has some form of synchronisation capabilities; thus allowing both online and offline working capabilities. I am curious to know what is the all-encompassing definition of "Web Services". Lots of excitement around this and even more hype. YekSoo

[4/6] from: slok00:yah:oo at: 12-Jan-2002 1:26

At 10:19 AM 1/11/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>Lok Yek Soon wrote: > >>Web services will be the "next big thing" and Microsoft has an early lead >>through its .Net initiative, according to market research firm Gartner Group. > >Only when they rig the polls. Otherwise people prefer Java so far ;) > >Chris

[5/6] from: greggirwin:mindspring at: 11-Jan-2002 12:27

Chris, YekSoon, et al << Chris: Only when they rig the polls. Otherwise people prefer Java so far ;) >> Java, of course, has the advantage of existing. Web services, via .NET aren't available yet, unless you want to deploy using a beta version. << YekSoon: Won't REBOL be a suitable platform for "Web Services"? >> IMHO, Yes! I see the combination of IOS and Rugby as being very powerful. Rugby gives you granular control for remote invocations and IOS gives you a larger infrastructure to build on. << I am curious to know what is the all-encompassing definition of "Web Services". Lots of excitement around this and even more hype.>> I don't know if there is a *single* definition at this point. :) You can make the term encompass a broad area by saying that a web service is any piece of software that can be accessed remotely, and resides on a server somewhere, rather than on the local machine. It could be a single function or a complete application. Maybe someone here has a better definition they can offer up. How much of the technology behind the web services hype is really new? Good question. Will web services, as a revolution, work? Another good question. I think we'll all be doing more "distributed computing" in the future, but I haven't bought into the web services "buzzword" myself. --Gregg

[6/6] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 12-Jan-2002 0:06

Gregg Irwin wrote:

>Chris, YekSoon, et al ><< Chris: Only when they rig the polls. Otherwise people prefer Java so far

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>or a complete application. Maybe someone here has a better definition they >can offer up.

I think that is is a little bit different ... Web services should mean web automatiotion. So you look and search for some service in UDDI catalog, web service itself is described in WSDL language, and your request comes wrapped in SOAP envelope. MS thinks that machines/ppl/devices/whatever will talk one to each other automatically. But - the more I try to learn about XML world, the more I think it is bloated standard, missing the point sometimes. Too many directions trying to become standards in certain areas. Wouldn't they be better with nice domain specific dialects and parsers? :-) -pekr-

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