overcoming anti-spam monitor
[1/11] from: ryan::christiansen::intellisol::com at: 27-Jun-2001 11:38
When I run a script to send e-mail to multiple recipients (one at a time
in a foreach loop) I receive the following error:
** User Error: Server error: tcp 554 Relay rejected for policy reasons.
** Near: insert port reduce data
I'm told this is because there is an anti-spam monitor on the mail server.
I tried using a wait statement for as much as 15 seconds, but that didn't
trick the server. Any suggestions?
Ryan C. Christiansen
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[2/11] from: bga:bug-br at: 27-Jun-2001 14:07
Em Wednesday, June 27 2001, 13:38:07, [ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com]
([ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com]) disse:
>I'm told this is because there is an anti-spam monitor on the mail server.
>I tried using a wait statement for as much as 15 seconds, but that didn't
>trick the server. Any suggestions?
1 -You have to send to as much recipients as your email server allows.
2 -Then you have to disconnect from the server.
3 - Then you have to connect again.
4 - Execute 1 again ignoring the adresses already used.
-Bruno
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[3/11] from: steve:shireman:semaxwireless at: 27-Jun-2001 12:13
Ryan,
Have you checked that your SMTP server setting in user.r is indeed the
one you use where you login?
At home, when I login to mindspring, I am configured in user.r to use
the mindspring SMTP server.
At work, when I login to Semax, I am configured in user.r to use the
SeMax SMTP server.
If I would criss-cross either of the above, I could not send email due
to anti-spam policies.
Been there, done that,
Steve Shireman
[ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com] wrote:
[4/11] from: gjones05:mail:orion at: 27-Jun-2001 12:20
From: <[ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com]>
> When I run a script to send e-mail to multiple recipients (one at a time
> in a foreach loop) I receive the following error:
<<quoted lines omitted: 3>>
> I tried using a wait statement for as much as 15 seconds, but that didn't
> trick the server. Any suggestions?
Hi, Ryan,
Usual disclaimer: "I am no expert, and am not even friends with an expert!!"
Assuming that the email is sent to a single user at a time (which is what it
sounds like you are doing, because many sites will filter out email with no
To:
field), other things that can be easily filtered include whether the
sender domain matches the smtp domain, on the premise that spammers may use a
promiscuous
smtp server that is not of their own domain (or forged domain).
For example, if you where sending email with the user.r configured name of
[jblow--mysite--dom], but sent the email through your isp's smtp server of say
smtp.myisp.dom, then the site may filter and block this type of email. A
solution is then to be sure that the sender dom and smtp dom match.
Other things that can be filtered are by the sending email client. Sites like
Earthlink (nee Mindspring) imply that they may filter based on clients that are
known spam generators. If you suspect something like this, then you can create
email with a custom header that either leaves of the name of the email program,
or uses a more generic description, like that found in Netscape.
Hope this helps.
--Scott Jones
[5/11] from: ryan:christiansen:intellisol at: 27-Jun-2001 12:39
Nope. I know I'm using the right smtp server because I am able to send the
first e-mail, just not subsequent e-mails.
-Ryan
Steve Shireman
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Ryan,
Have you checked that your SMTP server setting in user.r is indeed the
one you use where you login?
At home, when I login to mindspring, I am configured in user.r to use
the mindspring SMTP server.
At work, when I login to Semax, I am configured in user.r to use the
SeMax SMTP server.
If I would criss-cross either of the above, I could not send email due
to anti-spam policies.
Been there, done that,
Steve Shireman
[ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com] wrote:
[6/11] from: ryan:christiansen:intellisol at: 27-Jun-2001 12:38
I am using the following foreach loop to send mail...
foreach email-address email-addresses [
append email-body newline
email-address: make email! email-address
send/header email-address email-body make system/standard/email [
subject: "BeOS development"
]
print rejoin ["send to " email-address " successful"]
]
Does REBOL remain connected to the server in this loop? Why? How can I fix
it?
-Ryan
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Em Wednesday, June 27 2001, 13:38:07, [ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com]
([ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com]) disse:
>I'm told this is because there is an anti-spam monitor on the mail server.
>I tried using a wait statement for as much as 15 seconds, but that didn't
>trick the server. Any suggestions?
1 -You have to send to as much recipients as your email server allows.
2 -Then you have to disconnect from the server.
3 - Then you have to connect again.
4 - Execute 1 again ignoring the adresses already used.
-Bruno
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[7/11] from: agem:crosswinds at: 27-Jun-2001 20:39
RE: [REBOL] Re: overcoming anti-spam monitor
[ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com] wrote:
> Nope. I know I'm using the right smtp server because I am able to send the
> first e-mail, just not subsequent e-mails.
<<quoted lines omitted: 11>>
> > trick the server. Any suggestions?
> >
How do they detect that?
same content sended twice?
could you "personalize" your email a bit?
> > Ryan C. Christiansen
> > Web Developer
> >
-Volker
[8/11] from: ryan:christiansen:intellisol at: 27-Jun-2001 14:34
I tried personalizing individual e-mail, both in content and subject, but
that didn't solve the problem.
I have discovered I am able to send "spam" so long as it is to an internal
address (same domain.) But if I send to multiple external addresses, I get
the error. Again, I am using the 'send command for each instance when I
spam
to the outside world and so I don't quite understand the dilemma.
[agem--crosswin]
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[ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com] wrote:
>
> Nope. I know I'm using the right smtp server because I am able to send
the
> first e-mail, just not subsequent e-mails.
>
> -Ryan
> >
> > When I run a script to send e-mail to multiple recipients (one at a
time
> > in a foreach loop) I receive the following error:
> >
<<quoted lines omitted: 4>>
> server.
> > I tried using a wait statement for as much as 15 seconds, but that
didn't
> > trick the server. Any suggestions?
> >
How do they detect that?
same content sended twice?
could you "personalize" your email a bit?
> > Ryan C. Christiansen
> > Web Developer
> >
-Volker
[9/11] from: chris:starforge at: 27-Jun-2001 19:22
#27-Jun-01# Message from [*ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com*]:
Hi [ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com],
> I'm told this is because there is an anti-spam monitor on the mail server.
> I tried using a wait statement for as much as 15 seconds, but that didn't
> trick the server. Any suggestions?
Do you have access to sendmail? If so, I'd suggest using it directly and
placing all the recipient addresses in the to:, cc: or bcc: fields. I can
send you a REBOL script and a unix script that work together to automate
this process if you want.
Chris
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[10/11] from: ryan:christiansen:intellisol at: 27-Jun-2001 16:33
It's a Notes server.
:(
Chris
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#27-Jun-01# Message from [*ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com*]:
Hi [ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com],
> I'm told this is because there is an anti-spam monitor on the mail
server.
> I tried using a wait statement for as much as 15 seconds, but that didn't
> trick the server. Any suggestions?
Do you have access to sendmail? If so, I'd suggest using it directly and
placing all the recipient addresses in the to:, cc: or bcc: fields. I can
send you a REBOL script and a unix script that work together to automate
this process if you want.
Chris
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[11/11] from: chris:starforge:demon at: 28-Jun-2001 9:52
[ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com] wrote:
> It's a Notes server.
>
> :(
Ouch :/
Good luck! (you're going to need it...;))
Chris
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