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overcoming anti-spam monitor

 [1/11] from: ryan::christiansen::intellisol::com at: 27-Jun-2001 11:38


When I run a script to send e-mail to multiple recipients (one at a time in a foreach loop) I receive the following error: ** User Error: Server error: tcp 554 Relay rejected for policy reasons. ** Near: insert port reduce data I'm told this is because there is an anti-spam monitor on the mail server. I tried using a wait statement for as much as 15 seconds, but that didn't trick the server. Any suggestions? Ryan C. Christiansen Web Developer Intellisol International 4733 Amber Valley Parkway Fargo, ND 58104 701-235-3390 ext. 6671 FAX: 701-235-9940 http://www.intellisol.com Global Leader in People Performance Software _____________________________________ Confidentiality Notice This message may contain privileged and confidential information. If you think, for any reason, that this message may have been addressed to you in error, you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it, and we would ask you to notify us immediately by return email to [ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com]

 [2/11] from: bga:bug-br at: 27-Jun-2001 14:07


Em Wednesday, June 27 2001, 13:38:07, [ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com] ([ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com]) disse:
>I'm told this is because there is an anti-spam monitor on the mail server. >I tried using a wait statement for as much as 15 seconds, but that didn't >trick the server. Any suggestions?
1 -You have to send to as much recipients as your email server allows. 2 -Then you have to disconnect from the server. 3 - Then you have to connect again. 4 - Execute 1 again ignoring the adresses already used. -Bruno -- Bruno G. Albuquerque [bga--bug-br--org--br] BeDevId #15362 Grupo Brasileiro de Usuários de BeOS - Presidente http://www.bug-br.org.br

 [3/11] from: steve:shireman:semaxwireless at: 27-Jun-2001 12:13


Ryan, Have you checked that your SMTP server setting in user.r is indeed the one you use where you login? At home, when I login to mindspring, I am configured in user.r to use the mindspring SMTP server. At work, when I login to Semax, I am configured in user.r to use the SeMax SMTP server. If I would criss-cross either of the above, I could not send email due to anti-spam policies. Been there, done that, Steve Shireman [ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com] wrote:

 [4/11] from: gjones05:mail:orion at: 27-Jun-2001 12:20


From: <[ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com]>
> When I run a script to send e-mail to multiple recipients (one at a time > in a foreach loop) I receive the following error:
<<quoted lines omitted: 3>>
> I tried using a wait statement for as much as 15 seconds, but that didn't > trick the server. Any suggestions?
Hi, Ryan, Usual disclaimer: "I am no expert, and am not even friends with an expert!!" Assuming that the email is sent to a single user at a time (which is what it sounds like you are doing, because many sites will filter out email with no To: field), other things that can be easily filtered include whether the sender domain matches the smtp domain, on the premise that spammers may use a promiscuous smtp server that is not of their own domain (or forged domain). For example, if you where sending email with the user.r configured name of [jblow--mysite--dom], but sent the email through your isp's smtp server of say smtp.myisp.dom, then the site may filter and block this type of email. A solution is then to be sure that the sender dom and smtp dom match. Other things that can be filtered are by the sending email client. Sites like Earthlink (nee Mindspring) imply that they may filter based on clients that are known spam generators. If you suspect something like this, then you can create email with a custom header that either leaves of the name of the email program, or uses a more generic description, like that found in Netscape. Hope this helps. --Scott Jones

 [5/11] from: ryan:christiansen:intellisol at: 27-Jun-2001 12:39


Nope. I know I'm using the right smtp server because I am able to send the first e-mail, just not subsequent e-mails. -Ryan Steve Shireman <[steve--shireman--semaxwir] To: [rebol-list--rebol--com] eless.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: [REBOL] Re: overcoming anti-spam monitor [rebol-bounce--rebol--com] 06/27/2001 12:13 PM Please respond to rebol-list Ryan, Have you checked that your SMTP server setting in user.r is indeed the one you use where you login? At home, when I login to mindspring, I am configured in user.r to use the mindspring SMTP server. At work, when I login to Semax, I am configured in user.r to use the SeMax SMTP server. If I would criss-cross either of the above, I could not send email due to anti-spam policies. Been there, done that, Steve Shireman [ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com] wrote:

 [6/11] from: ryan:christiansen:intellisol at: 27-Jun-2001 12:38


I am using the following foreach loop to send mail... foreach email-address email-addresses [ append email-body newline email-address: make email! email-address send/header email-address email-body make system/standard/email [ subject: "BeOS development" ] print rejoin ["send to " email-address " successful"] ] Does REBOL remain connected to the server in this loop? Why? How can I fix it? -Ryan "Bruno G. Albuquerque" To: [rebol-list--rebol--com] <[bga--bug-br--o] cc: rg.br> Subject: [REBOL] Re: overcoming anti-spam monitor Sent by: rebol-bounce@ rebol.com 06/27/2001 12:37 PM Please respond to rebol-list Em Wednesday, June 27 2001, 13:38:07, [ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com] ([ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com]) disse:
>I'm told this is because there is an anti-spam monitor on the mail server. >I tried using a wait statement for as much as 15 seconds, but that didn't >trick the server. Any suggestions?
1 -You have to send to as much recipients as your email server allows. 2 -Then you have to disconnect from the server. 3 - Then you have to connect again. 4 - Execute 1 again ignoring the adresses already used. -Bruno -- Bruno G. Albuquerque [bga--bug-br--org--br] BeDevId #15362 Grupo Brasileiro de Usuários de BeOS - Presidente http://www.bug-br.org.br

 [7/11] from: agem:crosswinds at: 27-Jun-2001 20:39


RE: [REBOL] Re: overcoming anti-spam monitor [ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com] wrote:
> Nope. I know I'm using the right smtp server because I am able to send the > first e-mail, just not subsequent e-mails.
<<quoted lines omitted: 11>>
> > trick the server. Any suggestions? > >
How do they detect that? same content sended twice? could you "personalize" your email a bit?
> > Ryan C. Christiansen > > Web Developer > >
-Volker

 [8/11] from: ryan:christiansen:intellisol at: 27-Jun-2001 14:34


I tried personalizing individual e-mail, both in content and subject, but that didn't solve the problem. I have discovered I am able to send "spam" so long as it is to an internal address (same domain.) But if I send to multiple external addresses, I get the error. Again, I am using the 'send command for each instance when I spam to the outside world and so I don't quite understand the dilemma. [agem--crosswin] ds.net To: [rebol-list--rebol--com] Sent by: cc: rebol-bounce@ Subject: [REBOL] Re: overcoming anti-spam monitor rebol.com 06/27/2001 01:39 PM Please respond to rebol-list RE: [REBOL] Re: overcoming anti-spam monitor [ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com] wrote:
> > Nope. I know I'm using the right smtp server because I am able to send
the
> first e-mail, just not subsequent e-mails. > > -Ryan > > > > When I run a script to send e-mail to multiple recipients (one at a
time
> > in a foreach loop) I receive the following error: > >
<<quoted lines omitted: 4>>
> server. > > I tried using a wait statement for as much as 15 seconds, but that
didn't
> > trick the server. Any suggestions? > >
How do they detect that? same content sended twice? could you "personalize" your email a bit?
> > Ryan C. Christiansen > > Web Developer > >
-Volker

 [9/11] from: chris:starforge at: 27-Jun-2001 19:22


#27-Jun-01# Message from [*ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com*]: Hi [ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com],
> I'm told this is because there is an anti-spam monitor on the mail server. > I tried using a wait statement for as much as 15 seconds, but that didn't > trick the server. Any suggestions?
Do you have access to sendmail? If so, I'd suggest using it directly and placing all the recipient addresses in the to:, cc: or bcc: fields. I can send you a REBOL script and a unix script that work together to automate this process if you want. Chris -- New sig in the works Explorer 2260, Designer and Coder http://www.starforge.co.uk -- +++ END OF TAGLINES ERROR +++ Out of Cheese alert +++ REDO FROM START +++

 [10/11] from: ryan:christiansen:intellisol at: 27-Jun-2001 16:33


It's a Notes server. :( Chris <[chris--starfo] To: [rebol-list--rebol--com] rge.co.uk> cc: Sent by: Subject: [REBOL] Re: overcoming anti-spam monitor rebol-bounce@ rebol.com 06/27/2001 02:22 PM Please respond to rebol-list #27-Jun-01# Message from [*ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com*]: Hi [ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com],
> I'm told this is because there is an anti-spam monitor on the mail
server.
> I tried using a wait statement for as much as 15 seconds, but that didn't > trick the server. Any suggestions?
Do you have access to sendmail? If so, I'd suggest using it directly and placing all the recipient addresses in the to:, cc: or bcc: fields. I can send you a REBOL script and a unix script that work together to automate this process if you want. Chris -- New sig in the works Explorer 2260, Designer and Coder http://www.starforge.co.uk -- +++ END OF TAGLINES ERROR +++ Out of Cheese alert +++ REDO FROM START +++

 [11/11] from: chris:starforge:demon at: 28-Jun-2001 9:52


[ryan--christiansen--intellisol--com] wrote:
> It's a Notes server. > > :(
Ouch :/ Good luck! (you're going to need it...;)) Chris -- New sig in the works Explorer2260 Designer and Coder http://www.starforge.co.uk

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