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Why is mention of Win2000 excluded in download page for /core?

 [1/7] from: tim::johnsons-web::com at: 7-Mar-2002 15:07


I have been told by RT officials that rebol/core 2.5.0.3.1 is stable for use with Windows 2000. (If memory serves me correctly) I have also read emails in the list to the effect that rebol/core 2.5.0.3.1 works fine on Windows 2000. If that is the case then why is there not some content at the rebol website that confirms that /core 2.5.0.3.1 is Win 2000 - ready? There is a specific reason for my concern: I've contacted several ISPs that are using Win2000 web servers about running rebol scripts on their servers. They refuse to do so unless they see some documentation to the effect that /core is portable to win2000. At least one has told me that all she needs to see is win2000 in the cell at http://www.rebol.com/platforms.html for 2.5.0.3.1 with win2000 included. as in Windows 95/98/NT/2000 instead of just Windows 95/98/NT. Have there been problems with win2000 that I don't know about? Is this why the exclusion? Just curious, that simple change in content might lead to some more "reb-friendly" ISPs. At least it would where I live and there are many win2000 webservers. Is there documentation regarding this anywhere else in the rebol site? That might help. Thanks -- Tim Johnson <[tim--johnsons-web--com]> http://www.alaska-internet-solutions.com http://www.johnsons-web.com

 [2/7] from: jason:cunliffe:verizon at: 7-Mar-2002 20:30


> At least one has told me that all she needs to see is win2000 in the
cell
> at http://www.rebol.com/platforms.html for 2.5.0.3.1 with win2000
included. I don't have win2k here so I cannot confirm, but I assume YES. #1 on rebol home page it says: IOS runs identically on: Windows (95, 98, NT, 2000, ME, XP), Linux, Solaris, BSD, AIX, HP/UX, and many more. #2 http://rebol.com/releases.html Windows 95/98/NT iX86 2.5.0.3.1 #3 As I understand it, Win2000 is just renamed NT5, but it took M$ 3 years or something to make the upgrade from NT4SP3++. Whenever I see something runs on 95/98/NT it is pretty safe it will run across the board. What about XP ?? Is XP = Win2002 ? I thought so, maybe someone can clarify. For any given REBOL/Core what are the system dependencies? I thought REBOL had minimal dependenci handling network prorocls nativley itself. But there must be some.. Anyone answer this? Alas, there are _lots_ of things which should be on the rebol.com site which are not..{sigh} The site is poorly maintained and a lousy demo of what rebol can do. Great shame, but RT's resources are slim and applied to other tasks. The other reason it is not mentioned explicitly on rebol.com is probably because it is taken for granted that it works and that anyone can test so easily. Rebol is so easy to install, no registry mess, tiny, multiple personal installations are quite easy to do. But I wonder if your ISP is not much more worried about crashing her win2000 than crashing your rebol? Why does'nt she just try it out? If you have FTP with some login shell access why don't you? Just upload and run. let us know how it works out ./Jason

 [3/7] from: tim:johnsons-web at: 7-Mar-2002 18:12


Hi Jason: * Jason Cunliffe <[jason--cunliffe--verizon--net]> [020307 16:51]:
> I don't have win2k here so I cannot confirm, but I assume YES.
As I do....
> "IOS runs identically on: Windows (95, 98, NT, 2000, ME, XP), Linux, > Solaris, BSD, AIX, HP/UX, and many more."
I saw that..... and THAT should tell the ISP that (since /core is "core") there should be no problem (building a case here :-)
> #2 http://rebol.com/releases.html > Windows 95/98/NT iX86 2.5.0.3.1
<Sigh>No mention of 2000</sigh>
> For any given REBOL/Core what are the system dependencies? > I thought REBOL had minimal dependenci handling network prorocls nativley > itself. But there must be some.. Anyone answer this?
For my experience, I've run rebol on win95/98/NT and (mostly) linux. I've seen maybe one difference (resolving pathinfo in cgi), and that's about it...
> Alas, there are _lots_ of things which should be on the rebol.com site which > are not..{sigh} The site is poorly maintained and a lousy demo of what rebol > can do. Great shame, but RT's resources are slim and applied to other tasks.
For those of us who have rebol's best interest in mind, because it is in our best interest, maybe RT wouldn't be too proud to ask for a little "grunt" work. Maybe just a little content revision huh?
> The other reason it is not mentioned explicitly on rebol.com is probably > because it is taken for granted that it works and that anyone can test so > easily. Rebol is so easy to install, no registry mess, tiny, multiple > personal installations are quite easy to do.
In defense of the ISPs, one should never assume until it's tested....
> But I wonder if your ISP is not much more worried about crashing her win2000 > than crashing your rebol?
I think she's a penguin-lover :-)
> Why does'nt she just try it out? > If you have FTP with some login shell access why don't you? > Just upload and run.
That would be not be a good idea on my part. I wouldn't do anything behind a sysadmin's back. She (and other sysadmins) have to answer to managers, who want some evidence of portability. It would take like 5 seconds to add win2000 to the content. Thanks. (And she's set me up on a linux machine) -- Tim Johnson <[tim--johnsons-web--com]> http://www.alaska-internet-solutions.com http://www.johnsons-web.com

 [4/7] from: al:bri:xtra at: 8-Mar-2002 16:42


Jason asked:
> What about XP ??
I'm now using Windows/XP for home, and Rebol/Core and Rebol/View work just fine. Andrew Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://valley.150m.com/

 [5/7] from: joel:neely:fedex at: 7-Mar-2002 21:47


Hi, all, I'm running it on W2k (and have for over a year). Tim Johnson wrote:
> In defense of the ISPs, one should never assume until it's > tested.... > > > But I wonder if your ISP is not much more worried about > > crashing her win2000 than crashing your rebol? > > I think she's a penguin-lover :-) >
It runs on Linux as well (I have been for WELL over a year). -jn- -- ; sub REBOL {}; sub head ($) {@_[0]} REBOL [] # despam: func [e] [replace replace/all e ":" "." "#" "@"] ; sub despam {my ($e) = @_; $e =~ tr/:#/.@/; return "\n$e"} print head reverse despam "moc:xedef#yleen:leoj" ;

 [6/7] from: tim:johnsons-web at: 7-Mar-2002 20:00


> Hi, all, > I'm running it on W2k (and have for over a year).
<<quoted lines omitted: 7>>
> > > > I think she's a penguin-lover :-)
Hey Joe:
> It runs on Linux as well (I have been for WELL over a year). > > -jn-
And for me too (and on servers), but that's not the point. :-) My original post was to solicit (or to find) some kind of RT documentation that would support /core's portability to win2000. See the original post. In a word, RT could improve on its advertising..... I don't care myself because I can always find a Linux server, but they are kind of cutting themselves out of some of the M$oft market by not just stating somewhere in their site that rebol is compatible with win2000. Thanks -tj
> -- > ; sub REBOL {}; sub head ($) {@_[0]}
<<quoted lines omitted: 6>>
> [rebol-request--rebol--com] with "unsubscribe" in the > subject, without the quotes.
-- Tim Johnson <[tim--johnsons-web--com]> http://www.alaska-internet-solutions.com http://www.johnsons-web.com

 [7/7] from: james:mustard at: 8-Mar-2002 17:51


> > At least one has told me that all she needs to see is win2000 in the > cell > > at http://www.rebol.com/platforms.html for 2.5.0.3.1 with win2000 > included. > > I don't have win2k here so I cannot confirm, but I assume YES.
Have win2000 with Core - it is working fine with Apache as a host and I don't seem to have any problems. Core has never crashed Windows, or Apache 1.3.22 I am also running View side by side quite happily. James.

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