[REBOL.org] -- REBsite access

[1/11] from: SunandaDH::aol::com at: 21-Jul-2004 4:33

Something new to play with --- the Script Library is now browsable as a REB site. You can browse by script name, owner, and various other filters. --REBOL/View --Desktop --Goto: http://www.rebol.org/library/reb/index.r Happy browsing, Sunanda.

[2/11] from: antonr:lexicon at: 22-Jul-2004 2:08

Ah! Very good! More incentive for me to get back to a reb browser. By the way, I noticed under platform/ that there is win/ and windows/. Any good reason for that ? Anton.

[3/11] from: greggirwin:mindspring at: 21-Jul-2004 14:30

Hi Anton, AR> By the way, I noticed under platform/ that there is AR> win/ and windows/. Any good reason for that ? Just flexibility IIRC. -- Gregg

[4/11] from: moliad:aei:ca at: 21-Jul-2004 22:30

its not working for me! my desktop can't find the http://www.rebol.org/index.rfile! (and no, its not in local mode ;-) -MAx

[5/11] from: ml:addept:ws at: 22-Jul-2004 0:12

Did you attempt to open it via REBOL->Sites->REBOL.org? It won't open it for me that way but it will open it for me it I click on "Goto" and enter the proper URL. The URL that is in REBOL->Sites is http://www.rebol.org/index.rbut the actual index file is at http://www.rebol.org/library/reb/index.r HTH! ~~Ammon :~>

[6/11] from: carl:cybercraft at: 22-Jul-2004 18:53

>its not working for me! > >my desktop can't find the http://www.rebol.org/index.rfile! > >(and no, its not in local mode ;-)

Wrong address. Try... Goto: http://www.rebol.org/library/reb/index.r -- Carl Read

[7/11] from: carl:cybercraft at: 22-Jul-2004 19:14

>Ah! Very good! >More incentive for me to get back to a reb browser.

Does that mean get back to using one, or coding one? I don't use the Desktop very often, but whenever I do I'm always impressed by how quick it is to run REBOL scripts from the Net - and how under-developed the Desktop is for making this easy. No bookmarks, no forward button, etc., etc. Be interesting to see what an alternative Reb browser would look like - or an enhanced Desktop. -- Carl Read

[8/11] from: SunandaDH:aol at: 22-Jul-2004 5:21

Carl:

> I don't use the Desktop very often, but whenever I do I'm always impressed

> how quick it is to run REBOL scripts from the Net - and how under-developed > the Desktop is for making this easy. No bookmarks, no forward button,

etc.,

> etc.

The biggest "etc" that makes the desktop very difficult to use is that it won't work with URLs that contain parameters. That's a very big limitation. Example: my first attempt at making REBOL.org a Rebsite involved this CGI program: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/reb-index.r If you cut'n'paste that into a browser, you'll see that it returns a Reb Index file that contains a line: file "Scripts" http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/reb-index.r?filters=all Same program, different parameter. And if you cut'n'paste that, you'll see that you are drilling down the Script Library one level at a time. Simple, and -- I thought -- elegant. But it won't work in the Reb desktop -- try it and you'll see what I mean. Instead, we had to treat Reb access to REBOL.org like building a static index -- the Rebsite-build program generates over 100 Reb Index files, each with a unique name -- and it needs to be rerun each time a script changes. That's messy. Sunanda.

[9/11] from: antonr:lexicon at: 26-Jul-2004 0:08

Well, my alpha version browser has icon and detail modes to switch between. I don't like the limitations of icon mode much. Bookmark management is almost a whole little app by itself, but these days, you simply have to have it. That's it... not saying anything more until I have more goodies. Anton.

[10/11] from: antonr:lexicon at: 26-Jul-2004 0:35

Sunanda, So you think it would be good if the browser would pass the cgi parameters to the run script as script arguments ? That seems eminently solvable with a custom read-thru and path-thru, which reencode the url, replacing characters illegal for filenames, like '?' etc. :) Anton.

[11/11] from: SunandaDH:aol at: 26-Jul-2004 6:08

Anton:

> So you think it would be good if the browser would > pass the cgi parameters to the run script as > script arguments ?

Yes I do. Reb, as a user-agent, should not be crippled by being only able to access a subset of all available URLs.

> That seems eminently solvable with a custom > read-thru and path-thru, which reencode the url, > replacing characters illegal for filenames, like '?' etc.

On Apache, you could work around the problem with URL rewriting. Or using the "redirect_*" cgi-variables in a custom 404 handler (if your server implements them -- http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/custom-error.html ) But both cases limit dynamic Reb sites to Apache hosts. That's not ideal, given REBOL's usual cross-platform flair. Sunanda.