pbs with view
[1/6] from: alban:gabillon:univ-pau at: 27-Nov-2002 16:29
HI,
I have just downloaded REBOL/VIEW.
I have noticed the following problems which I did not notice with rebol/core
First problem
upgrade
You are running an unknown version of REBOL.
(the version I am running is actually Rebol/view 1.2.1.3.1)
Second problem
probe system/words does not work (it freezes the console) whereas it works with rebol/core
Does anybody have on explanation ?
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Alban Gabillon
University of Pau
LIUPPA/Connected System SECurity
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[2/6] from: ingo:2b1 at: 28-Nov-2002 18:01
Hi Alban,
Alban Gabillon wrote:
> HI,
>
> I have just downloaded REBOL/VIEW.
>
> I have noticed the following problems which I did not notice with rebol/core
>
> First problem
>
> upgrade
> You are running an unknown version of REBOL.
That's a known problem, the script on the Rebol website doesn't handle
View, never has, but I hope it someday will ;-)
> (the version I am running is actually Rebol/view 1.2.1.3.1)
>
> Second problem
>
> probe system/words does not work (it freezes the console) whereas it works with rebol/core
Actually it should work, ... at least if you have a _fast_ computer with
lot's of memory.
>> t: now/time probe system/words print now/time - t
; some seconds of a seeming freeze,
; some more seconds of much text passing by in a hurry
0:00:19
; on a PIII/900 with 385MB and linux, /View 1.2.1.4.2
On view system/words is a hell of a beast, let's say it this way, it is
BIG, like, really _BIG_. It's because all the View elements are dumped
into system/words, and if you do a probe on it, the big object is walked
through, creating a really long string on the way, which is then
printed. I have heard of computers on which it took nearly an hour, and
some others never returned, IIRC.
Kind regards,
Ingo
[3/6] from: greggirwin:mindspring at: 28-Nov-2002 13:03
Hi Ingo,
IH> On view system/words is a hell of a beast, let's say it this way, it is
IH> BIG, like, really _BIG_. It's because all the View elements are dumped
IH> into system/words, and if you do a probe on it, the big object is walked
IH> through, creating a really long string on the way, which is then
IH> printed. I have heard of computers on which it took nearly an hour, and
IH> some others never returned, IIRC.
Aren't there circular references that contribute to the issue as well?
-- Gregg
[4/6] from: ingo:2b1 at: 28-Nov-2002 21:48
Hi Gregg,
Gregg Irwin wrote:
> Hi Ingo,
> IH> On view system/words is a hell of a beast, let's say it this way, it is
<<quoted lines omitted: 4>>
> IH> some others never returned, IIRC.
> Aren't there circular references that contribute to the issue as well?
Now that you mention it, yes, that's why it really didn't work on older
versions,
right?
Kind regards,
Ingo
[5/6] from: alban:gabillon:univ-pau at: 29-Nov-2002 11:04
> > Aren't there circular references that contribute to the issue as well?
>
> Now that you mention it, yes, that's why it really didn't work on older
> versions,
I thinks so. Because probe system/words definitley freezes the console on my
windows View version (1.2.1.3.1). And I have a powerful computer (pentium
1.4GHZ 512 MB of memory)
By the way, I have just downloaded View. So why did I get an "old version" ?
Where can I get the most recent version ? Ingo mentionned the 1.2.1.4.2
version. Where is it ?
AG
[6/6] from: ingo::2b1::de at: 29-Nov-2002 18:47
Hi Alban,
Alban Gabillon wrote:
<..>
> By the way, I have just downloaded View. So why did I get an "old version" ?
> Where can I get the most recent version ? Ingo mentionned the 1.2.1.4.2
> version. Where is it ?
The first three numbers are the version number, 1.2.1 in this case, and
the last two show the platform it is compiled for, where 3.1 stands for
Windows, and 4.2 for Linux with libc6. So I'll always stay ahead of you ;-)
Version 1.2.1 is the current official release, there are beta versions
for Windows and Linux on http://www.reboltech.com/downloads/ .
Kind regards,
Ingo
P.S. The list was once run by SELMA, a little Rebol script, Carl created
within half an hour or so, but later the list volume seemed to outgrow
its capabilities, but there was noone to reimplement, so RT switched to
listar - since then "Why is the list so slow" and "Why don't I get any
email from the list?" should be added to the FAQs.
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