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Installing REBOL/View on MacOS 9.2

 [1/6] from: jhagman::infa::abo::fi at: 14-Aug-2002 9:58


Hi, Long time off the list but with the purchase of an old iMac I tried to get my old rebol scripts work on the Mac. Unfortunately there were some problems with the installation. Firstly, writing the binary to a folder that was created by the installation program failed. If I created a folder for it everything went fine. But then when trying to launch any scripts from the desktop the new instance wants to reinstall itself :( The script launches fine but the installation window popping up all the time is a bit annoying. Have anyone succeeded in installing REBOL/View on MacOS 9.2? Or am I just doing something really wrong? Anoher thing, if I have understood correctly one should be able to move programfolders and programs at will, rebol did not work any more if I moved the folder or renamed it... Greetings, Jussi -- Jussi Hagman CS in Åbo Akademi University Studentbyn 4 D 33 [juhagman--abo--fi] 20540 Åbo [jhagman--infa--abo--fi] Finland

 [2/6] from: pa:russo:perd at: 14-Aug-2002 10:55


[jhagman--infa--abo--fi] ha scritto:
>Hi, >Long time off the list but with the purchase of an old iMac I tried to
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>Greetings, >Jussi
Jussi, nothing new under the Sun: I experienced the same problems exactly. The Mac version of REBOL/View is very buggish. And, as far as I understand, its improvement has a very low priority. Hopefully, we will see /View for OS X sooner or later. It should be stable as any other Unix version. -- Paolo Russo Amministratore Unico PERD s.r.l. Via Sannio, 59 00183 Roma http://www.perd.com cell. 380.7017.641

 [3/6] from: jhagman:infa:abo:fi at: 14-Aug-2002 13:32


Quoting Paolo Russo ([pa--russo--perd--com]):
> Hopefully, we will see /View for OS X sooner or later.
By the way, is Rebol/Core for OS X like Mac/Windows version with windows and popups or more like the console-only UNIX versions? Greetings, Jussi -- Jussi Hagman CS in Åbo Akademi University Studentbyn 4 D 33 [juhagman--abo--fi] 20540 Åbo [jhagman--infa--abo--fi] Finland

 [4/6] from: jhagman:infa:abo:fi at: 14-Aug-2002 13:26


Quoting Paolo Russo ([pa--russo--perd--com]):
> nothing new under the Sun: I experienced the same problems exactly.
OK, it is good to know that this is a known problem. It just affects my everyday life quite much as I can not live without my rpncalculator, that's an addiction that dies hard :)
> The Mac version of REBOL/View is very buggish. And, as far as I > understand, its improvement has a very low priority. Hopefully, we > will see /View for OS X sooner or later.
I can understand why the Rebol for the classic MacOS is a low priority, but I wonder why the OS X version is pending. I do not know a thing on programming a mac, but shouldn't it be quite easy to port a Classic application to Carbon? Hopefully I can find the money to buy the OS X soon... :) Greetings Jussi -- Jussi Hagman CS in Åbo Akademi University Studentbyn 4 D 33 [juhagman--abo--fi] 20540 Åbo [jhagman--infa--abo--fi] Finland

 [5/6] from: pa:russo:perd at: 14-Aug-2002 14:36


[jhagman--infa--abo--fi] ha scritto:
>Quoting Paolo Russo ([pa--russo--perd--com]): >> Hopefully, we will see /View for OS X sooner or later. > >By the way, is Rebol/Core for OS X like Mac/Windows version with windows >and popups or more like the console-only UNIX versions? >
/Core for OS X is console-only and it works fine. With regard to porting the Mac version from OS 9 to OS X there are a few considerations: 1. The OS9 is an example of "acrobatic programming": mac is document- centric, so they had to use a lot of "fantasy" to obtain multiple instances of /View. I think this is the main source of problems. It does not make sense to me to port /View as is in OS X. 2. I suspect it would be easier anyway to port a Unix flavour of /View to OS X. Anyway, buy OS X as soon as you can: it's truly amazing! The easy of use of Mac combined with the power of Unix : it's not marketing hype, it's true! OK, almost true nowadays, but it gets better every month. ;-) -- Paolo Russo Amministratore Unico PERD s.r.l. Via Sannio, 59 00183 Roma http://www.perd.com cell. 380.7017.641

 [6/6] from: oliva:david:seznam:cz at: 14-Aug-2002 11:41


Hello Jussi, Wednesday, August 14, 2002, 8:58:59 AM, you wrote: JH> Have anyone succeeded in installing REBOL/View on MacOS 9.2? Or am I JH> just doing something really wrong? I was trying to install Rebol/View on one friend's Mac and I had same problems, but that was my first meeting with MacOS so there was no surprise.... what I consider to be bigger problem was running some of my scripts that use no-tile option in 'view and has it's own dragging.... I use here this engage feel to drag window: view/options layout [ box "drag me" 100x100 with [ feel: make feel [ engage: func [f a e][ if a = 'down [ mouse-pos: e/offset ] if find [over away] a [ f/parent-face/offset: f/parent-face/offset + (e/offset - mouse-pos) show f/parent-face ] ] ] ] ][no-title no-border] That works fine in Windows but seems not to work in Mac and I think that in Unix as well. I don't have access to these OSs so I cannot find how to fix it now, but if someone can I would like to see correct way how to drag window in a crossplatform way.
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