Comparing Rebol 3, Rebol 2, Rebol 1.3
[1/5] from: jfdutcher1958:y:ahoo at: 11-Mar-2009 16:41
Goodness knows, I am dealing with the fact that Rebol 2.7.6 doesn't run scripts written
with 1.3.2....much less what Rebol 3 might do.
I submitted a Rambo Report and was chastised for suggesting that a bug was in the pudding
somewhere. My report was "dismissed". I notice that when I sent the entire script and
its input file to the big guns on the scene.....so they could run it themselves....the
chastisement
ended....but of course, no resolution, just "dismissal".
John D.
[2/5] from: henrikmk:g:mail at: 12-Mar-2009 16:27
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 12:41 AM, John Dutcher <jfdutcher1958-yahoo.com> wrote:
> Goodness knows, I am dealing with the fact that Rebol 2.7.6 doesn't run scripts written
with 1.3.2....much less what Rebol 3 might do.
>
> I submitted a Rambo Report and was chastised for suggesting that a bug was in the pudding
somewhere. My report was "dismissed". I notice that when I sent the entire script and
its input file to the big guns on the scene.....so they could run it themselves....the
chastisement
> ended....but of course, no resolution,=A0 just "dismissal".
Out of curiosity, what's the number of the report?
--
Regards,
Henrik Mikael Kristensen
[3/5] from: santilli:gabriele:g:mail at: 12-Mar-2009 10:42
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 12:41 AM, John Dutcher <jfdutcher1958-yahoo.com> wrote:
> Goodness knows, I am dealing with the fact that Rebol 2.7.6 doesn't run scripts written
with 1.3.2....much less what Rebol 3 might do.
It's funny that all of us have tens of megabytes of code (I'm not
kidding, Qtask is like 17 MB) that had no problems at all.
Now, if you could point out to an example of what your problem is, I
guess it would be easy to solve. Sending in a complete script and
asking us to fix your code won't work, sorry.
Regards,
Gabriele.
[4/5] from: john::dutcher::highmark::com at: 12-Mar-2009 13:02
Re: Comparing Rebol 3, Rebol 2, Rebol 1.3 #44690
The point of sending the file and script was not to get something
fixed.....
but to allow you to run both ways as I do, and see the dramatic
difference in results......
a sort of 'proof' that the script has no flaw that needs fixing, only
2.7.6 has a flaw.
John D.
[5/5] from: gregg:pointillistic at: 12-Mar-2009 15:26
Re: Comparing Rebol 3, Rebol 2, Rebol 1.3
GS> It's funny that all of us have tens of megabytes of code (I'm not
GS> kidding, Qtask is like 17 MB) that had no problems at all.
In John's defense, I think we've also had things break in other cases,
and 2.7.6 *has* broken some of my stuff with the change to CALL. Other
changes have also been problematic, e.g., "read %/" changing whether
leading slashes are included, where prefs are loaded from (or if they
are with unofficial releases), and registry functions being included
or not.
GS> Now, if you could point out to an example of what your problem is,
GS> I guess it would be easy to solve. Sending in a complete script
GS> and asking us to fix your code won't work, sorry.
John posted his script and test file to the ML before posting to
Rambo. It makes it easy to see that open/seek under 2.7.6 seems to
also imply /binary, which previous releases did not.
In this case, we're all right, and we're all to blame. John is right
that REBOL broke something. He asked for help in narrowing it down,
but we didn't, and he didn't on his own before posting to RAMBO.
Ultimately, this isn't technically a bug, but it's a problem. The only
place I found the behavior change mentioned was
http://www.rebol.net/upnews/0026.html and, to find that, you have to
know what you're looking for. The doc string for OPEN should mention
it. I RAMBOed it.
-- Gregg