What no DOS
[1/9] from: rick_falls:hotma:il at: 31-Jan-2002 12:32
Hey why not a DOS version of REBOL. With the small footprint of REBOl core I
could dust off and make use of my old 486PC. And REBOl is way easier than
Qbasic.
[2/9] from: chris:starforge:demon at: 31-Jan-2002 13:04
rick falls wrote:
>
> Hey why not a DOS version of REBOL. With the small footprint of REBOl
> core I could dust off and make use of my old 486PC. And REBOl is way
> easier than Qbasic.
Why not use a cut down linux distro and use one of the linux versions of REBOL?
Chris
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[3/9] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 31-Jan-2002 14:18
rick falls wrote:
> Hey why not a DOS version of REBOL. With the small footprint of REBOl core I
> could dust off and make use of my old 486PC. And REBOl is way easier than
> Qbasic.
I know that DOS is easier to use than Linux, but well, it is 16bit. And ... I
can hardly imagine RT would put their effort into DOS View version :-)
-pekr-
[4/9] from: bwilson:ihpva at: 31-Jan-2002 10:29
I think DOS has a small footprint because it lacks features that would
allow REBOL to run, like a reliable network stack and multitasking.
Shake the dust off the PC and run linux on it, it should be fine. I
ran linux for years on a 486 w/ 16MB and a 250 MB hd.
Hey, but what about this old Kaypro? How about a CP/M version? ;-)
On Thu, 31
Jan 2002, Petr Krenzelok wrote:
>
> rick falls wrote:
>
> > Hey why not a DOS version of REBOL. With the small footprint of REBOl core I
> > could dust off and make use of my old 486PC. And REBOl is way easier than
> > Qbasic.
Brian
[5/9] from: chalz:earthlink at: 31-Jan-2002 13:46
Heh. I don't think a DOS version of View would be necessary at all. I mean, while I
love Windows (that's right, you heard me: I LOVE Windows!!), sometimes I just feel at
home in a console. Course, I've been using various personal computers for about 18 years
now (and I'm only 24..), since the Commodore Vic20. I still don't like Linux much, but
I DO like QNX RTP 6 - but it's a real-time OS with, uh, no real memory cache, so it doesn't
really run on a 486 (among other reasons).
However, what I *have* done is to install CygWin, which is quite yummy I think. Too
bad there's no /core for it, though ;)
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rick falls wrote:
> Hey why not a DOS version of REBOL. With the small footprint of REBOl core I
> could dust off and make use of my old 486PC. And REBOl is way easier than
> Qbasic.
I know that DOS is easier to use than Linux, but well, it is 16bit. And ... I
can hardly imagine RT would put their effort into DOS View version :-)
-pekr-
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[6/9] from: rick_falls::hotmail::com at: 31-Jan-2002 18:46
Ok...OK..
It's just that there is a lot of people who know DOS and have access to it,
MS-DOS or FreeDOS.I can't seem tp find my CP/M disks ;-)
[7/9] from: chalz:earthlink at: 31-Jan-2002 14:34
Yeah, but who really develops for DOS anymore anyways? No networking, 16-bit environment,
8.3 filenames, no threading...?
And beware most Linux distributions these days anyways. They LIKE to install a LOT of
stuff now. I'm not looking for a debate here - I'm just talking from personal experience.
In '93, I installed Slackware, and .. well, the installation was slow and annoying,
I had to keep flipping through floppies because of a lack of HD space, and I had to cautiously
select each little piece I wanted. A couple years ago I installed Mandrake, using their
own installation program, and.. well, good luck installing it without a GUI! It kept
forcing me to install a ton of crap I didn't need/want at all. Ended up with >1GB of
space taken up :( Mostly from selecting this thing, and being told that it needed 50
other 'dependencies'... *shrugs* Just warning.
****
Ok...OK..
It's just that there is a lot of people who know DOS and have access to it,
MS-DOS or FreeDOS.I can't seem tp find my CP/M disks ;-)
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[8/9] from: bwilson:ihpva at: 31-Jan-2002 18:43
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, [chalz--earthlink--net] wrote:
> And beware most Linux distributions these days anyways. They LIKE
> to install a LOT of stuff now. I'm not looking for a debate here -
A default Redhat 7.2 install forced me to use a min. 2 GB /usr partition.
Mandrake ships code compiled for a 586 processor.
To set up a tiny REBOL system, it would be easiest to start with a tiny
distribution, like one designed for embedded systems or the LRP (Linux
Router Project).
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[9/9] from: chris:starforge:demon at: 1-Feb-2002 10:58
Brian Wilson wrote:
> To set up a tiny REBOL system, it would be easiest to start with a tiny
> distribution, like one designed for embedded systems or the LRP (Linux
> Router Project).
Linux From Scratch is even better, but to use that you do need to know your
way around Linux with only the most basic tools at your disposal - if you
want anything else you have to add it yourself.
Chris
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