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REBOL List should be back up now.

 [1/14] from: carl:rebol at: 15-Jun-2004 20:05


It looks like we found the problem with the list, and it has now been fixed by moving the list to a new email address: rebolist using our normal rebol.com domain. You may need to adjust your email filters and processors accordingly. Please try to avoid listing this address on web pages or in email... this helps cut down on the email address scraping that's going on. That was really jamming up the list server with spam. We hope it runs more efficiently now, at least until the spam builds up again. -Carl PS: if you send email to the old rebol-list address, for now you should get a reply, directing you to our web site for more info. Again we try to avoid sending the address out, even in the reply. Are we paranoid or what?

 [2/14] from: AJMartin:orcon at: 16-Jun-2004 15:36


Let's see if it really works? -- Andrew J Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://www.rebol.it/Valley/ http://valley.orcon.net.nz/ http://Valley.150m.com/

 [3/14] from: AJMartin:orcon at: 16-Jun-2004 16:01


It does work (for me). -- Andrew J Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://www.rebol.it/Valley/ http://valley.orcon.net.nz/ http://Valley.150m.com/

 [4/14] from: philb:upnaway at: 16-Jun-2004 12:02


Just checking that this is the correct email address

 [5/14] from: greggirwin::mindspring::com at: 15-Jun-2004 22:13


Can the MLM obfuscate the list address if it finds it in a list message? I noticed it in Andrew's reply, but I don't know how many posts will get cut and pasted somewhere else with it intact. We can update REBOL.org to do that in the mailing list archive there. -- Gregg

 [6/14] from: carl:rebol at: 15-Jun-2004 21:12


Sorry about the duplicate messages. Email server setup can be painful, because there are various queues at multiple locations along the route, and those queues also perform timed retries for prior delivery failures. Personally, as you know, I do not like email at all. It was good back in 1978 when I first started using it. But it's old, complicated, and feeble these days. In the amount of time it took to get this email list working properly again, we could have released some new SDK betas... Maybe tomorrow. -Carl At 08:00 PM 6/15/2004, you wrote:

 [7/14] from: brian:hawley at: 16-Jun-2004 0:24


Hi Carl, Glad to hear from you and the list again! At 09:12 PM 6/15/04 -0700, Carl wrote:
>Sorry about the duplicate messages. Email server setup can be painful, >because there are various queues at multiple locations along the route, and >those queues also perform timed retries for prior delivery failures. > >Personally, as you know, I do not like email at all. It was good back in >1978 when I first started using it. But it's old, complicated, and feeble >these days.
I agree. I've only been using it since the early '90s but am already feeling burned out on it. I answer emails with phone calls when I can :)
>In the amount of time it took to get this email list working properly >again, we could have released some new SDK betas... Maybe tomorrow.
As a new SDK licensee, I look forward to new betas! Brian Hawley

 [8/14] from: AJMartin:orcon at: 16-Jun-2004 18:30


> > In the amount of time it took to get this email list working properly
again, we could have released some new SDK betas... Maybe tomorrow.
> As a new SDK licensee, I look forward to new betas!
The steady drip, drip, drip of new releases, with bug fixes, creates an ocean of users... -- Andrew J Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://www.rebol.it/Valley/ http://valley.orcon.net.nz/ http://Valley.150m.com/

 [9/14] from: SunandaDH:aol at: 16-Jun-2004 3:00


Gregg:
> We can > update REBOL.org to do that in the mailing list archive there
Glad to have the list back! REBOL.org already obfuscates or removes most email addresses in message headers. And it does a little bit of obfuscation on email addresses in the body of a message -- but we could *specifically* blank out the new list address when it occurs in the body. I'll get on to it. Assuming Carl doesn't want to do it as the messages come in. Sunanda.

 [10/14] from: SunandaDH:aol at: 16-Jun-2004 3:19


Gregg:
> We can > update REBOL.org to do that in the mailing list archive there
Done a quickie on that, as you can see from: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-message.r?m=rmlTQPC I'll think of something more sophisticated (like a link to joining the group) in a day or two. Meanwhile ----HELLO CARL---- you might want to obsfucate the join address on this page: http://www.rebol.com/discussion.html That will/should reduce spams to the Join address Sunanda.

 [11/14] from: robert:muench:robertmuench at: 16-Jun-2004 9:47


On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:01:37 +1200, A J Martin <[AJMartin--orcon--net--nz]> wrote:
> It does work (for me).
Test too. BTW: Take a look at ASSP spam filter, the best to choose on the server. No more problems with spam since I use it. -- Robert M. Münch Management & IT Freelancer Mobile: +49 (177) 245 2802 http://www.robertmuench.de

 [12/14] from: doncox:enterprise at: 16-Jun-2004 8:25


On 16/06/04, Carl Sassenrath wrote:
> Sorry about the duplicate messages. Email server setup can be painful, > because there are various queues at multiple locations along the
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> in 1978 when I first started using it. But it's old, complicated, and > feeble these days.
IMO email works fine so long as you stick to ASCII and do not try to display any HTML or UTF-8. The great advantage over the telephone is that it is asynchronous. Regards -- Don Cox [doncox--enterprise--net]

 [13/14] from: carl:rebol at: 16-Jun-2004 1:40


Thanks for the suggestion. That address is already getting pounded so hard I did not bother. We'll need to change the name on it at some point, at that time we can remove the web page reference. It would be nice if ecartis had a mode that said "if it's not a valid command, then just blackhole the request." At 12:19 AM 6/16/2004, you wrote:

 [14/14] from: greggirwin:mindspring at: 16-Jun-2004 9:46


Sunanda, Excellent! Thanks for doing that so quickly. Folks, please check out the ML archive at REBOL.org if you get a chance and send us feedback (here, there, or on one of the AltME worlds where there's a Library group). Thanks! -- Gregg

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