REBOL in the web browser...
[1/3] from: carl:cybercraft at: 31-Dec-2009 3:18
This makes sense...
http://reboltutorial.com/businessmarketing/why-altme-world-failed-whereas-basecamp-succeeds/
And while I don't mind if AltMe is or isn't in the browser, (I don't use it and no doubt
some like the dark net approach, plus failure's a relative term), it would be hugely
useful to be able to access REBOL apps from any browser anywhere. Which means having
the REBOL Web Browser Plugin running on all major web browsers and operating systems.
Which was the promise at one time, but seemingly forgotten about in favour of getting
R3 up and running.
I note however there is some new R2 activity...
http://rebolweek.blogspot.com/2009/12/year-ending-2009.html
And redevelopment has started on Rebol2 with a 2.7.7 release by years end ... The idea
is to start monthly releases similar to the Rebol3 release schedule.
That's good. I don't see any point in abandoning one tool in favour of a newer, shinier
one, especially when the newer, shinier one is still months or years away from passing
the feature list of the older one.
My wish for 2010 would be to see R2/View running in all major web browsers. In my opinion,
it's the one single thing that could significantly accelerate REBOL adoption.
-- Carl Read.
[2/3] from: fergus4:bellatlantic at: 31-Dec-2009 10:11
I believe there were major (unsolvable?) security issues with the plug-in
which R3 is to address and fix...thus the abandonment of R2 Browser Plug In
[3/3] from: nick:guitarz at: 31-Dec-2009 7:58
I also think that would give REBOL a powerful edge over other tools,
and would keep REBOL at the front line of computing trends, but I am
really intrigued by one other possible option... The browser has
become the modern equivalent of the desktop operating system of
previous generations. As things like Chrome OS become popular,
REBOL's usefulness will decrease, but more robust plugin options would
mean it could again become viable. I use the plugin in my business
for a few small apps, but getting it to run in Mozilla and Opera
requires a link on the page and some directions to copy the files to
the plugin directory. IE support is inconsisten across versions.
That needs to be ironed out, and support for Linux and Mac is
essential...
While I'm wishing, support for iPhone, Android, Win Mobile, and other
mobile platforms, and some basic multimedia support is necessary
(native cross platform access to sound input (recording, not just
playing), web cams, MP3 playing, and some popular video codecs, etc).
Make all the above things a priority, and nothing else could touch us :)
I'm sure a bigger community would satisfy all those requests and many
more, so my real wish is to grow the community. I truly think that
more and better documentation is a big part of the answer, and a few
good marketing gurus could work some magic.
The one other option that I'm really intrigued about is REBOL/Flash.
Let that huge corporate and user community maintain support for all
the multiple new platforms, and just create a native REBOL-to-Flash
compiler. Oldes has done a great thing with his REBOL/flash dialect
(not just as proof of concept, but as a real, usable tool - look at
Machinarium), but what I'm thinking of is direct REBOL/View dialect
and REBOL/Core code compilation ** directly to SWF **. Carl could get
a TON of mileage and built-in future support for REBOL by creating
such a compiler. Adobe will maintain support for future platforms,
and REBOL wins, without any additional work by RT or the REBOL
community. And just think about the huge Flash development community
that could embrace REBOL... (we need more developers!!!)
Quoting Carl Read <carl-cybercraft.co.nz>: