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REBOL in the web browser...

 [1/3] from: carl:cybercraft at: 31-Dec-2009 3:18


This makes sense... http://reboltutorial.com/businessmarketing/why-altme-world-failed-whereas-basecamp-succeeds/ And while I don't mind if AltMe is or isn't in the browser, (I don't use it and no doubt some like the dark net approach, plus failure's a relative term), it would be hugely useful to be able to access REBOL apps from any browser anywhere. Which means having the REBOL Web Browser Plugin running on all major web browsers and operating systems. Which was the promise at one time, but seemingly forgotten about in favour of getting R3 up and running. I note however there is some new R2 activity... http://rebolweek.blogspot.com/2009/12/year-ending-2009.html And redevelopment has started on Rebol2 with a 2.7.7 release by years end ... The idea is to start monthly releases similar to the Rebol3 release schedule. That's good. I don't see any point in abandoning one tool in favour of a newer, shinier one, especially when the newer, shinier one is still months or years away from passing the feature list of the older one. My wish for 2010 would be to see R2/View running in all major web browsers. In my opinion, it's the one single thing that could significantly accelerate REBOL adoption. -- Carl Read.

 [2/3] from: fergus4:bellatlantic at: 31-Dec-2009 10:11


I believe there were major (unsolvable?) security issues with the plug-in which R3 is to address and fix...thus the abandonment of R2 Browser Plug In

 [3/3] from: nick:guitarz at: 31-Dec-2009 7:58


I also think that would give REBOL a powerful edge over other tools, and would keep REBOL at the front line of computing trends, but I am really intrigued by one other possible option... The browser has become the modern equivalent of the desktop operating system of previous generations. As things like Chrome OS become popular, REBOL's usefulness will decrease, but more robust plugin options would mean it could again become viable. I use the plugin in my business for a few small apps, but getting it to run in Mozilla and Opera requires a link on the page and some directions to copy the files to the plugin directory. IE support is inconsisten across versions. That needs to be ironed out, and support for Linux and Mac is essential... While I'm wishing, support for iPhone, Android, Win Mobile, and other mobile platforms, and some basic multimedia support is necessary (native cross platform access to sound input (recording, not just playing), web cams, MP3 playing, and some popular video codecs, etc). Make all the above things a priority, and nothing else could touch us :) I'm sure a bigger community would satisfy all those requests and many more, so my real wish is to grow the community. I truly think that more and better documentation is a big part of the answer, and a few good marketing gurus could work some magic. The one other option that I'm really intrigued about is REBOL/Flash. Let that huge corporate and user community maintain support for all the multiple new platforms, and just create a native REBOL-to-Flash compiler. Oldes has done a great thing with his REBOL/flash dialect (not just as proof of concept, but as a real, usable tool - look at Machinarium), but what I'm thinking of is direct REBOL/View dialect and REBOL/Core code compilation ** directly to SWF **. Carl could get a TON of mileage and built-in future support for REBOL by creating such a compiler. Adobe will maintain support for future platforms, and REBOL wins, without any additional work by RT or the REBOL community. And just think about the huge Flash development community that could embrace REBOL... (we need more developers!!!) Quoting Carl Read <carl-cybercraft.co.nz>: