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JAKA: Just Another Killer App

 [1/5] from: tim::johnsons-web::com at: 18-Aug-2001 11:57


Now that I have your attention.... here's some thoughts. I haven't done anything with View yet, but maybe there is a place for View in POS (Point of Sales). I'm aware that there are a number of POS applications written originally for DOS, with Text-Cell style User Interfaces. Some users of these are having a lot of problems with upgrades. Without knowing much about the details, I would guess that Windows is making it much more difficult to program "DOS-style" applications. The developer might be faced with some hard choices, among those would be: Write a Windows-style GUI Migrate to Linux with it's great ncurses support and resources. Perhaps it would be worthwhile to investigate a View-based interface for such an existing app? I'm personally not interested, because my work takes me in a different direction, but maybe some one on the list might be... JMTCW -- Tim Johnson <[tim--johnsons-web--com]> http://www.johnsons-web.com

 [2/5] from: al:bri:xtra at: 19-Aug-2001 10:13


> I'm aware that there are a number of POS applications written originally
for DOS, with Text-Cell style User Interfaces.
> Some users of these are having a lot of problems with upgrades. Without
knowing much about the details, I would guess that Windows is making it much more difficult to program "DOS-style" applications.
> The developer might be faced with some hard choices, among those would be: > Write a Windows-style GUI...
I think it requires the developer to change too much of their own mindset to move from DOS to Windows applications. I've been working with a developer who's migrating a DOS program to Windows. He's doing a very poor job of it. The resulting program looks like a poorly written conversion of the DOS program. The windows way is to bring the data to the foremost, while keeping process and procedure to the background. Doing it the windows way requires many changes in the developer, not just the programming language. Andrew Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://zen.scripterz.org

 [3/5] from: tim:johnsons-web at: 18-Aug-2001 16:30


On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 10:13:54AM +1200, Andrew Martin wrote:
> > I'm aware that there are a number of POS applications written originally > for DOS, with Text-Cell style User Interfaces.
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> > The developer might be faced with some hard choices, among those would be: > > Write a Windows-style GUI...
Retorical statement on my part.... :>)
> I think it requires the developer to change too much of their own mindset to > move from DOS to Windows applications. I've been working with a developer
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> process and procedure to the background. Doing it the windows way requires > many changes in the developer, not just the programming language.
As I expected. And perhaps a developer might consider a a /view front end? Or you could could write it for him! -- There are million ways NOT to do something. It could be easier to find the ONE way to do something than the million ways not to --Curmudgeous Rebolous

 [4/5] from: al:bri:xtra at: 20-Aug-2001 15:16


> Or you could could write it for him!
A work of around minutes! :-) I'm working to replace the whole mess with something far, far better. Andrew Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://zen.scripterz.org

 [5/5] from: tim:johnsons-web at: 19-Aug-2001 20:30


On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 03:16:37PM +1200, Andrew Martin wrote:
> > Or you could could write it for him! > > A work of around minutes! :-) > > I'm working to replace the whole mess with something far, far better.
Yep. I know you will. Paradigm shifts are tough... for me, going from 'C' to rebol was 'very difficult. But now I switch between 'C' and rebol fairly easily - except for the '=' vs ':'. And convincing a programmer with a large legacy of code that he/she is familiar with - to engage with something like rebol, (even if someone else is doing the coding), is going against some definetly serious momentum.
> Andrew Martin > ICQ: 26227169 http://zen.scripterz.org
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> [rebol-request--rebol--com] with "unsubscribe" in the > subject, without the quotes.
-- Tim Johnson <[tim--johnsons-web--com]> http://www.johnsons-web.com
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