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make-doc-pro viewer

 [1/9] from: ammon::rcslv::com at: 28-Jun-2002 7:21


Hi, Has anyone built a good make-doc-pro viewer? I would like to be able to open any doc I choose and see it in its awesome format. Any ideas? Thanks!! Ammon

 [2/9] from: robert:muench:robertmuench at: 29-Jun-2002 14:28


> -----Original Message----- > From: [rebol-bounce--rebol--com] [mailto:[rebol-bounce--rebol--com]]On Behalf Of
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> Has anyone built a good make-doc-pro viewer? I would like to > be able to open any doc I choose and see it in its awesome format. Any ideas?
Hi Ammon, can you explain it a bit more to me? You want a viewer, where you can open a make-doc-pro formatted TXT file and immediatly get the HTML output? Robert

 [3/9] from: atruter:hih:au at: 1-Jul-2002 10:43


>> Has anyone built a good make-doc-pro viewer? I would like to >> be able to open any doc I choose and see it in its awesome format. Any
ideas?
>Hi Ammon, can you explain it a bit more to me? You want a viewer, where
you can
>open a make-doc-pro formatted TXT file and immediatly get the HTML output? >Robert
I think he just wants something that will take a make-doc-pro document and render it directly in view/VID, sort of like a quick "preview" function. I have played around with variations on this theme, and the problem (much like trying to render HTML), is that while it is easy to render line based styles in view (eg. an <h1> followed by an <h2> followed by a <p> tag, etc) it is quite difficult to do intra-line styles (eg. <strong>, <emphasis> tags, or any intra-line colour changes). I got so stumped by this that I ended up creating a simple line-oriented markup language that easily renders to view (and PDF, using pdf-maker.r), nothing flash but it enables quick and easy help dialogs and simple letters / reports. I must add that rendering to a pageless scheme (eg. html) is significantly easier than a "page-aware" format (such as PDF), as you don't have to worry about how to determine where your rendered text is going to appear (and by implication, *when* you need to add page break(s)), but for printed reports PDF (or rtf if I ever get around to it!) is greatly preferable to html. So, after all that, how is make-doc-pro PDF support going Robert? I can certainly appreciate the difficulties you will / are encountering! ;) Regards, Ashley

 [4/9] from: robert:muench:robertmuench at: 1-Jul-2002 9:20


> -----Original Message----- > From: [rebol-bounce--rebol--com] [mailto:[rebol-bounce--rebol--com]]On Behalf Of
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> I think he just wants something that will take a make-doc-pro document and > render it directly in view/VID, sort of like a quick "preview" function.
Hi, ok I see. I have to think about this.
> it is quite difficult to do intra-line styles (eg. <strong>, <emphasis> > tags, or any intra-line colour changes).
That's what I was thinking about too. Is there any way to this with View at the moment? I can't remember a 'bold etc. tag for rendering text. If it's not possible it sounds like we need a rich-text-style with a nice dialect... oh, could we use the make-doc-pro dialect for this ;-)?
> I must add that rendering to a pageless scheme (eg. html) is significantly > easier than a "page-aware" format (such as PDF), as you don't have to worry > about how to determine where your rendered text is going to appear (and by > implication, *when* you need to add page break(s)), but for printed reports > PDF (or rtf if I ever get around to it!) is greatly preferable to html.
That's right. Especially if you don't have sizing information. For this stuff I would have a look at the TeX/LaTeX stuff.
> So, after all that, how is make-doc-pro PDF support going Robert? I can > certainly appreciate the difficulties you will / are encountering! ;)
Still no progress yet. I'm goig to stablize make-doc-pro first. Than I have to have a look at the LaTeX algorithm, try it on view and than PDF. Maybe Flash should be done first... Robert

 [5/9] from: ammon:rcslv at: 1-Jul-2002 7:46


Hi, I do in fact want to render it directly in view. I thought that someone had a viewer that they were using, but that it didn't the ability to open other documents. I think it was something similar to the easy-VID viewer? Thanks!! Ammon On Monday 01 July 2002 12:43 am, you wrote:

 [6/9] from: greggirwin:mindspring at: 1-Jul-2002 10:20


Hi Robert, << > I think he just wants something that will take a make-doc-pro document and
> render it directly in view/VID, sort of like a quick "preview" function.
Hi, ok I see. I have to think about this.>> EasyVID/EasyDraw might be a good place to start, for ideas. --Gregg

 [7/9] from: al:bri:xtra at: 2-Jul-2002 9:40


> I think he just wants something that will take a make-doc-pro document and
render it directly in view/VID, sort of like a quick "preview" function. One solution is to use a Wiki. My Rebol/Wiki works very well with my eText dialect. I'm sure that it wouldn't be too hard to adapt make-doc-pro to function in a Wiki. For me, it was as simple as (page View function): Execute: has [Title] [ Envelope Title: to-string filename File compose/deep [ ( eText/Wiki/Base read Wiki_Directory/:File rejoin [ CGI/Script-File #"?" any [directory File ""] ] ) hr table/width "100%" [ tr [ td/align "left" [(Contents/Html)] td/align "left" [(Random_Page/Html)] td/align "center" [(Search/Html Title)] td/align "right" [(Edit/Html Name)] ] ] ] ] I hope that helps! Andrew Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://valley.150m.com/

 [8/9] from: ammon:rcslv at: 2-Jul-2002 3:36


Hi, Volker has something that is a good start, it is available on the developer Server Projects/VID/Tests/Volker/test-app Enjoy!! Ammon A short time ago, Andrew Martin, sent an email stating:

 [9/9] from: robert:muench:robertmuench at: 3-Jul-2002 10:05


> -----Original Message----- > From: [rebol-bounce--rebol--com] [mailto:[rebol-bounce--rebol--com]]On Behalf Of
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> Volker has something that is a good start, it is available on > the developer Server Projects/VID/Tests/Volker/test-app
Hi, looks good :-)). As said I'm going to think about it... Robert

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