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docs for facets styles for vid?

 [1/17] from: ben:brannen:gmai:l at: 10-Sep-2009 21:50


Where can I find a Rebol reference for all the modification that can occur to an object i.e. defined standard styles / facets? text bold, italic, size, etc... text-list ?????? button [color] [size] etc.... I can't seem to find a simple reference anywhere. Remember the old BASIC reference manual of the '70-80's PEEK ### Retuns the value of the memory location specified. Can accept Hex or Decimal values. Example: PEEK (16345)
>> $FF
PEEK $ABCD
>> $F3
-ben

 [2/17] from: compkarori:gmai:l at: 11-Sep-2009 15:07


Ben There never has been a comprehensive document on Vid .. the usual excuse is that it is not Rebol, just a dialect. You'll see several half finished documents on RT's various sites. http://www.rebol.com/docs/view-guide.html On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Ben Brannen<ben.brannen-gmail.com> wrote:
> Where can I find a Rebol reference for all the modification that can occur > to an object
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> To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to > lists at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject.
-- Graham Chiu http://www.synapsedirect.com Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR.

 [3/17] from: ddharing:atronixengineering at: 11-Sep-2009 9:18


Another common response to this question is "Just study the source". Good, comprehensive documentation is hard to write. You take it for granted until it's not available. If someone wrote a third-party reference guide for VID, I would buy it. Graham Chiu wrote: Ben There never has been a comprehensive document on Vid .. the usual excuse is that it is not Rebol, just a dialect. You'll see several half finished documents on RT's various sites. http://www.rebol.com/docs/view-guide.html[1] On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:50 PM,Ben Brannen<ben.brannen-gmail.com>[2] wrote: Where can I find a Rebol reference for all the modification that can occu= r to an object =A0i.e. defined standard styles / facets? text bold, italic, size, etc... text-list ?????? button [color] [size] etc.... I can't seem to find a simple reference anywhere. Remember the old BASIC reference manual of the '70-80's PEEK ### Retuns the value of the memory location specified. Can accept Hex or Decimal values. Example: PEEK (16345) $FF PEEK $ABCD $F3 -ben -- To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to lists at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject. --=20 Graham Chiu http://www.synapsedirect.com[3] Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR. -- David den Haring Project Manager Atronix Engineering, Inc. 3100 Medlock Bridge Rd. Suite 110 Norcross, GA 30071 [IMG][4]P 770-840-4045 x228 C 404-993-6973 F 770-840-4046 --- Links --- 1 http://www.rebol.com/docs/view-guide.html 2 mailto:ben.brannen-gmail.com 3 http://www.synapsedirect.com 4 http://www.atronixengineering.com -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: image/jpeg -- File: atronix-logo.jpg

 [4/17] from: ben:brannen::gmail at: 11-Sep-2009 9:07


I would write it, if I knew where to look. :-) On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:18 AM, David den Haring < ddharing-atronixengineering.com> wrote:

 [5/17] from: henrikmk:gmai:l at: 11-Sep-2009 16:23


On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Ben Brannen <ben.brannen-gmail.com> wrote:
> I would write it, if I knew where to look. > :-)
I happen to know where to look. This is another shameless plug for the VID Extension Kit, sorry. :-) There will be updated docs and new build soon and with that there will also be a style creation document, that explains those parts of VID in details. This will also work for standard VID. If you can hang on for a few days... -- Regards, Henrik Mikael Kristensen

 [6/17] from: ben:brannen::gmail at: 11-Sep-2009 9:43


looking forward to it. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Henrik Mikael Kristensen < henrikmk-gmail.com> wrote:

 [7/17] from: brock:kalef:innovapost at: 11-Sep-2009 10:29


This link may be helpful http://www.rebol.org/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlTVCC.The last item in the mail-list thread (courtesy of Anton) actually has commands to display o all the styles available o the details of those styles o the list of all available generic facets o styles with style-specific facets Brock

 [8/17] from: anton:wilddsl:au at: 12-Sep-2009 1:29


Hi Ben, The source can be mined: foreach [style face] svv/vid-styles [print [style mold face/words]] Some docs I wrote: http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/doc/facets.txt http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/doc/grow-facets.r http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/doc/face-flags.txt Those three docs together should cover almost all facets you're likely to encounter with default VID styles. Anton. Ben Brannen wrote:

 [9/17] from: carl:cybercraft at: 12-Sep-2009 11:02


On Friday, 11-September-2009 at 9:18:28 David den Haring wrote,
> Another common response to this question is "Just study the source". Good, >comprehensive documentation is hard to write. You take it for granted until >it's not available.
But when it's a commercial product, it's the job of those who produced it to provide the docs for how to use it. It's also terribly inefficient to leave it to others to first figure out how it works and then explain it. Those who designed it already know how it works and why it works as it does, (hopefully), so they're the obvious ones to write the docs. They'll be able to do it quicker and better than hundreds or thousands of users all studying the source in the hope of figuring out how things work, most of who'll give up before getting much of a grasp of how it works. REBOL's supposed to be a better, quicker way to program. But how much time have its users lost because the View/VID docs were only half done X number of years back and then left at that stage? -- Carl Read.

 [10/17] from: moliad::gmail at: 11-Sep-2009 21:48


Hi all, The real reference documentation to VID/View is here: http://www.rebol.com/docs/view-system.html I refer to it often, still. VID is just a dialect over view, and just about everything in view is used directly by the code in VID, so just knowing what view can do, is the best way to understand VID. The init and feel code of most styles is also a VERY good place to look to know how the various styles work. things like the obscure face/colors & face/fonts block can be understood by looking at these. -MAx On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Carl Read <carl-cybercraft.co.nz> wrote:
> On Friday, 11-September-2009 at 9:18:28 David den Haring wrote, > >> Another common response to this question is "Just study the source". Good, >>comprehensive documentation is hard to write. You take it for granted until >>it's not available. > > But when it's a commercial product, it's the job of those who produced it to provide the docs for how to use it. It's also terribly inefficient to leave it to others to first figure out how it works and then explain it. Those who designed it already know how it works and why it works as it does, (hopefully), so they're the obvious ones to write the docs. They'll be able to do it quicker and better than hundreds or thousands of users all studying the source in the hope of figuring out how things work, most of who'll give up before getting much of a grasp of how it works. > > REBOL's supposed to be a better, quicker way to program. But how much time have its users lost because the View/VID docs were only half done X number of years back and then left at that stage?

 [11/17] from: moliad:gm:ail at: 12-Sep-2009 1:02


by pure circumstances... I just came across this page which gives some other data about stuff related to VID/View. its like a user accumulated page of tidbits, FAQ & Howto... useful for beginners & intermediate level REBOLers very cool when using search function of a browser you can discover many little tricks which aren't easily covered in reference manuals... -MAx On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch <moliad-gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all, > The real reference documentation to VID/View is here:
<<quoted lines omitted: 18>>
>> >> REBOL's supposed to be a better, quicker way to program. But how much time have its users lost because the View/VID docs were only half done X number of years back and then left at that stage?

 [12/17] from: ddharing:atronixengineering at: 14-Sep-2009 8:24


Max, Which page are you referring to? Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch wrote: by pure circumstances... I just came across thispage which gives some other data about stuff related to VID/View. its like a user accumulated page of tidbits, FAQ &Howto... useful for beginners &intermediate level REBOLers very cool when using search function of a browser you can discover many little tricks which aren't easily covered in reference manuals... -MAx On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch <moliad-gmail.com>[1] w= rote: Hi all, The real reference documentation to VID/View is here: http://www.rebol.com/docs/view-system.html[2]I refer to it often, still. VID is just a dialect over view, and just about everything in view is used directly by the code in VID, so just knowing what view can do, is the best way to understand VID. The init and feel code of most styles is also a VERY good place to look to know how the various styles work. =A0things like the obscure face/colors &face/fonts block can be understood by looking at these. -MAx On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Carl Read <carl-cybercraft.co.nz>[3] wrote: On Friday, 11-September-2009 at 9:18:28 David den Haring wrote, Another common response to this question is "Just study the source". Go= od, comprehensive documentation is hard to write. You take it for granted untilit's not available. But when it's a commercial product, it's the job of those who produced i= t to provide the docs for how to use it. It's also terribly inefficient to = leave it to others to first figure out how it worksand then explain it. Th= ose who designed it already know how it works and why it works as it does, = (hopefully), so they're the obvious ones to write the docs. They'll be able= to do it quicker and better than hundreds orthousands of users all studyi= ng the source in the hope of figuring out how things work, most of who'll g= ive up before getting much of a grasp of how it works. REBOL's supposed to be a better, quicker way to program. But how much ti= me have its users lost because the View/VID docs were only half done X numb= er of years back and then left at that stage? -- Carl Read. -- To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to lists at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject. -- David den Haring Project Manager Atronix Engineering, Inc. 3100 Medlock Bridge Rd. Suite 110 Norcross, GA 30071 [IMG][4]P 770-840-4045 x228 C 404-993-6973 F 770-840-4046 --- Links --- 1 mailto:moliad-gmail.com 2 http://www.rebol.com/docs/view-system.html 3 mailto:carl-cybercraft.co.nz 4 http://www.atronixengineering.com -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: image/jpeg -- File: atronix-logo.jpg

 [13/17] from: moliad:gmai:l at: 14-Sep-2009 12:52


Hi David, Double Doh!! replied to someone privately, as they sent me a direct mail asking for the link... didn't notice that... here is the link for all to see: http://www.pat665.free.fr/gtk/rebol-view.html and while I'm at it, I'll add this excellent resource too: http://www.codeconscious.com/rebol/ -MAx On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:24 AM, David den Haring <ddharing-atronixengineering.com> wrote:

 [14/17] from: vonja:sbcglobal at: 14-Sep-2009 9:55


I had the same question. Max responded with http://www.pat665.free.fr/gtk/rebol-view.html

 [15/17] from: nick:guitarz at: 14-Sep-2009 10:24


The info at this link should be helpful: http://musiclessonz.com/rebol.html#section-6.1.1 Quoting David den Haring <ddharing-atronixengineering.com>:

 [16/17] from: nick:guitarz at: 15-Sep-2009 18:35


I updated that section, and this script to include more about VID styles, words, and facets: http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=quick-manual.r Quoting Nick Antonaccio <nick-guitarz.org>:

 [17/17] from: semseddinm:bircom at: 18-Sep-2009 10:56


Very nice, thanks a lot. I'll use this to add all words and styles to my text editor's (editplus) auto-complete list.

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