Want FreesiteUK's scripts?
[1/16] from: gchiu:compkarori at: 6-Feb-2001 11:43
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:06:37 +0100
Paolo Russo <[pa--russo--perd--com]> wrote:
> It would be
> nicer if we could experiment its prowess on a cheaper or
> free dbms
> like MySQL.
Perhaps RT could rethink their strategy and provide an
interface to the open source sql databases, but charge for
access to commercial databases such as sqlserver, and
Oracle.
That way developers could cut their teeth on Rebol, it
should increase the pool of experienced Rebol developers,
and RT would still get their profits from the companies that
can afford Oracle etc, and who were the only companies that
were going to pay for it in the first place.
Sun used to seed their servers into the universities, and MS
their products into the academic institutions for the same
reasons.
--
Graham Chiu
[2/16] from: ralph:abooks at: 4-Feb-2001 18:40
I agree... REBOL/Command with the type of integrated MySQL support PHP has
would be heaven!
--Ralph Roberts
[3/16] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 5-Feb-2001 6:32
Jeff Rubin wrote:
> REBOL/Command has excellent support in Window (have had much success in past
> few months)
> although I have not tried it in Linux yet.
How many times should I repeat that? /Command = CGI. What do we want is - Apache
module. If it is not like that, the world will not accept it. I tried to
convince three of my friends and the answer was clear - CGI s... :-) ... that's
probably reality and we have no guns to make them think in other way ....
Well, I use CGI as I don't use Rebol for some heavy stuff yet. What's more,
maybe the solution is coming:
1) Apache module is somehow postponed. But according to info from RT marketing
department (and I hope I am not telling secrets here), Rebol/Apache is still
being regarded strategic product, although other things have priority nowadays
(/Express)
2) DocKimbel created mySQL scheme (protocol) script, which is currently
available to /Express testers. I haven't tried it myself yet, but it surely
would be interesting to know the speed in comparison to PHP Apache module, as a)
we have to use it in CGI mode b) the script encoding routines are written in
Rebol ....
3) Of course PHP Apache module solution = 0 USD, while Rebol/Command under Linux
costs some 299 USD (not to mention other Unixes). And it even doesn't support
mySQL directly, nor ODBC, - you have to use /Library component and wrapper
script Jeff created and posted to the list ...
If not /Library, then at least /Shell should become part of /Core ... for free
:-) Well, /Shell is so basic functionality, - I can't help myself ... ;-)
-pekr-
[4/16] from: rebol:techscribe at: 5-Feb-2001 2:50
Hi Petr,
you wrote:
> How many times should I repeat that?
try
>> random/seed now
>> random good-to-hear-from-you * have-you-been-busy?
Hope this helps ;-),
Elan
[5/16] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 5-Feb-2001 12:08
Elan wrote:
> Hi Petr,
> you wrote:
<<quoted lines omitted: 3>>
> >> random good-to-hear-from-you * have-you-been-busy?
> Hope this helps ;-),
It really does :-)
have-you-been-busy?: does [if not all [equal? system/product "Apache"
found? find system/components "MySQL"] [send [dan--rebol--com] "something's
missing :-)"] true] ;-) regular comment :-)
-pekr-
[6/16] from: ticksoft:freesiteuk at: 4-Feb-2001 12:34
Hi,
Just wondering, I am nearly finished converting my site
from Rebol to PHP, and will therefore have no need for
the scripts that my site currently uses.
If anyone is interested in obtaining the scripts that
run FreesiteUK, then let me know, I will send you them
as soon as the new version is installed and running.
Everything is controlled from a web based management
system.
The system consists of an opt-in newsletter system,
the newsletter is generated automatically and all you
have to do is press submit. There is a linktrade system
that rewards other sites that link to you by mentioning
the most popular on all pages and in the newsletter.
There is an submit a site facility, a feedback form,
a search facility (with the ability to recommend other
search engines depending on the section) that is very
fast and precise.
There is a newsletter advert rotation rotation system
and a web advert rotation system.
To summarise, it is a web directory which has lots
of features and took me many months to write.
A demo of the management system can be found by
downloading the following file, the demo requires
a windows based PC.
http://www.freesiteuk.com/fsuk.exe
I have thought about uploading it one of those
script archives, but the whole system consists of
around 30 or 40 scripts.
==
All the best,
--
Malcolm Campbell
[malcolm--freesiteuk--com]
[7/16] from: ticksoft:freesiteuk at: 4-Feb-2001 14:05
Hi,
>Why? :-)
Well, the site is getting a bit big and requiring
more memory, also I wanted to learn PHP.
The main reason (which is related to the above) is
that I wanted to use MySQL without having to use a
method that may be platform dependant or too
difficult.
I still like Rebol more, if only it had some sort of
built in support for MySQL like PHP has. :)
==
All the best,
--
Malcolm Campbell
[malcolm--freesiteuk--com]
[8/16] from: pa:russo:perd at: 5-Feb-2001 23:06
>I agree... REBOL/Command with the type of integrated MySQL support PHP has
>would be heaven!
>
>--Ralph Roberts
>
I agree too.
IMHO Rebol is too young for us to risk to use it on a huge
development project based on big guns like Oracle's DBMS. It would be
nicer if we could experiment its prowess on a cheaper or free dbms
like MySQL.
Moreover, I'm afraid it will be a long way before Rebol become a
corporate tool.Corporations are slow to accept innovations ( not
Microsoft, of course ;-). Nowadays I see Rebol as a marvelous tool
for medium/small IT firms or for consultants and they (we) usually
can't afford an Oracle license in their (our) tight budget projects.
MySQL is another history.
Just my two cents.
--
Paolo Russo
[pa--russo--perd--com]
_________________
PERD s.r.l.
Virtual Technologies for Real Solutions
http://www.perd.com
[9/16] from: dockimbel:free at: 5-Feb-2001 23:15
Petr Krenzelok wrote:
[...]
> How many times should I repeat that? /Command = CGI. What do we want is -
> Apache module. If it is not like that, the world will not accept it. I tried
> to convince three of my friends and the answer was clear - CGI s... :-) ...
> that's probably reality and we have no guns to make them think in other way
[...]
Petr, there's another solution : FastCGI (http://www.fastcgi.com)
It's better in some aspects than the module approach and the protocol is quite
simple.
> 2) DocKimbel created mySQL scheme (protocol) script, which is currently
> available to /Express testers. I haven't tried it myself yet, but it surely
mySQL scheme is under beta testing for a few more days. I'll post an announce
here when the first public beta will be ready.
> would be interesting to know the speed in comparison to PHP Apache module,
> as a) we have to use it in CGI mode b) the script encoding routines are
> written in Rebol ....
[...]
It's faster than what i excepted. Roughly 150Ko/s for a "select" on my P150
with mysqld running on localhost.
Regards,
DocKimbel.
[10/16] from: malcolm:freesiteuk at: 4-Feb-2001 20:44
Hi,
Just wondering, I am nearly finished converting my site
from Rebol to PHP, and will therefore have no need for
the scripts that my site currently uses.
If anyone is interested in obtaining the scripts that
run FreesiteUK, then let me know, I will send you them
as soon as the new version is installed and running.
Everything is controlled from a web based management
system.
The system consists of an opt-in newsletter system,
the newsletter is generated automatically and all you
have to do is press submit. There is a linktrade system
that rewards other sites that link to you by mentioning
the most popular on all pages and in the newsletter.
There is an submit a site facility, a feedback form,
a search facility (with the ability to recommend other
search engines depending on the section) that is very
fast and precise.
There is a newsletter advert rotation rotation system
and a web advert rotation system.
To summarise, it is a web directory which has lots
of features and took me many months to write.
A demo of the management system can be found by
downloading the following file, the demo requires
a windows based PC.
http://www.freesiteuk.com/fsuk.exe
I have thought about uploading it one of those
script archives, but the whole system consists of
around 30 or 40 scripts.
==
All the best,
--
Malcolm Campbell
[malcolm--freesiteuk--com]
FreesiteUK - http://www.freesiteuk.com
The UK based searchable web directory of free internet
services
[11/16] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 4-Feb-2001 22:49
----- Original Message -----
From: Malcolm Campbell <[malcolm--freesiteuk--co--uk]>
To: <[rebol-list--rebol--com]>
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 9:44 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Want FreesiteUK's scripts?
> Hi,
>
> Just wondering, I am nearly finished converting my site
> from Rebol to PHP,
Why? :-)
-pekr-
[12/16] from: malcolm:freesiteuk at: 4-Feb-2001 22:13
Hi,
>Why? :-)
Well, the site is getting a bit big and requiring
more memory, also I wanted to learn PHP.
The main reason (which is related to the above) is
that I wanted to use MySQL without having to use a
technique that may be platform dependant, too
difficult or simply require admin access to the
server.
I still like Rebol more, if only it had some sort of
built in support for MySQL like PHP has. :)
==
All the best,
--
Malcolm Campbell
[malcolm--freesiteuk--com]
FreesiteUK - http://www.freesiteuk.com
The UK based searchable web directory of free internet
services.
[13/16] from: jr:brainbyte at: 4-Feb-2001 16:33
REBOL/Command has excellent support in Window (have had much success in past
few months)
although I have not tried it in Linux yet.
Although I had to use PHP for file uploading via HTTP since I never could
get it to work right in REBOL
and I know PHP has built in session management now, so that is very cool.
How about REBOL getting all the built in goodness of PHP? That would be in
addition to all the goodness REBOL already has of course.
just my 2 cents
Jeff
[14/16] from: malcolm:freesiteuk at: 7-Feb-2001 20:42
Hi,
>it would be nice if you uploaded the scripts for study purposes, we junior
>Rebolers would learn from them :-)
I'll post the URL of the archived scripts on this list since I have had several
requests.
Remember, they won't be available until I finish the new one, which hasn't yet
got the linktrade and newsletter systems implemented.
All the best,
--
Malcolm Campbell
[malcolm--freesiteuk--com]
FreesiteUK - http://www.freesiteuk.com
The UK based searchable web directory of free internet
services.
[15/16] from: chaz:innocent at: 6-Feb-2001 22:13
I'm interested in obtaining those scripts of yours.
chaz
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[16/16] from: sharriff:aina:med-iq at: 7-Feb-2001 7:03
it would be nice if you uploaded the scripts for study purposes, we junior
Rebolers would learn from them :-)
Regards
Sharriff Aina
chaz
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