Useless --noinstall option
[1/10] from: rebol-list2::seznam::cz at: 16-Dec-2002 16:53
Hello rebol-list, does anybody know how to use the --noinstall option? In the documentation I can see: --noinstall (-i) Do not install (View) but if I try to start Rebol using this command line: rebol-view.exe -cs --noinstall --script R-box2/rbox.r language en ...on computer where there is no Rebol installed yet, will display the Rebol install screen with the SAVE button - if I press this button the console screens appears with only one possiblity: press any key to quit :( SO - it's almost impossible to use Rebol on CDs! Now it's a cristmass time, a lot of people is making PF03 CDs full of Macromedia files, it would be good time to spread Rebol a little bit to users who don't know about it yet, but it's not possible:( Or should I include readme file with somethink like this: "Hi this is good game but first you have to download this file from this page then run the file to install this program and if you install it correctly you can run the other file to run the game." It's nice that RT is thinking about multimedia but they should first fix such a problems, because it's a key feature to run some script without installing Rebol itself. Anyway, what is the Rebol installation? It copy itself to some folder It looks for SMTP server, adds the HOME and PRODUCT values into registry, make some empty folder as %public/ and %local/ and creates the %user.r file. Is it so important? I think NO, it just make Rebol useless on machines where the user has no rights to write into the registry:( And don't tell me I need to buy Encap to run Rebol app. without installation, because I don't need to have my code crypted. Crypted code kills the Rebolution! I consider the not working --noinstall option as a serious bug and I will write it to feedback as this one stupid bug: 1. write this script into some dir (not a root dir and not in ) rebol  view layout [ button "test" [read %..] ] 2. run this script by doubleclicking the icon or from command line, if the Security check appears press YES (do not press ALLOW ALL!) then press the TEST button (another security window should popup) press YES again and then press some key -> RESULT: empty console screen appears!! =( Oliva David )=======================( [oliva--david--seznam--cz] )== =( Earth/Europe/Czech_Republic/Brno )============================= =( coords: [lat: 49.22 long: 16.67] )=============================
[2/10] from: gchiu:compkarori at: 17-Dec-2002 7:28
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:53:55 +0100 RebOldes <[rebol-list2--seznam--cz]> wrote:
> Anyway, what is the Rebol installation? It copy itself >to some
<<quoted lines omitted: 7>>>rights to write > into the registry:(
What happens if you create some dummy network settings, and the correct file structure on the cd? Is it just the registry settings that need to be done? -- Graham Chiu http://www.compkarori.com/cerebrus
[3/10] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 16-Dec-2002 20:22
Graham Chiu wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:53:55 +0100 > RebOldes <[rebol-list2--seznam--cz]> wrote:
<<quoted lines omitted: 7>>> correct file structure on the cd? Is it just the registry settings > that need to be done?
Rebol registry settings cause nothing less than trouble! It goes from View to IOS. It is really interesting to see, how magicians at RT still adhere to so called MS guidelines ;-) - some time ago there was bad bug, which ignored --install option, when rebol was started from different location ... last I checked it seemed to be OK? But maybe it is not, if Oldes reports some bugs. Oldes, try to use .bat file to change path to the location of rebol.exe and launch rebol from your .bat file ... - RT does not offer browser plug-ins, so one less reason to use registry. - noone imo uses .r suffix in association with rebol directly? I prefer my text editor to be launched for .r instead of rebol for e.g. - IOS could work nicely from USB handydrive, but it can't easily. Even if you launch it from USB device, it looks into registry and synces back to your HD! (AltME offers "run from current location" or so at least ...) So, I would welcome open-minded reply in that regard - what is the feature, which apparently makes developers unhappy and causes more trouble than it brings good, good for? As for me - I would completly reverse the logic - no-install by default - the same goes for SDK - no registry functions by default ... -pekr-
[4/10] from: al:bri:xtra at: 17-Dec-2002 8:47
> RebOldes <[rebol-list2--seznam--cz]> wrote: > > Anyway, what is the Rebol installation? It copy itself
<<quoted lines omitted: 11>>> and the correct file structure on the cd? Is it just the > registry settings that need to be done?
Perhaps you just need a %user.r file on the CD? Andrew Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://valley.150m.com/
[5/10] from: ammon:addept:ws at: 16-Dec-2002 13:42
Hi, I agree, noinstall by default. ;-0 Enjoy!! Ammon Johnson --- CIO Addept ------------------ (www.addept.ws) 435-616-2322 -------- (ammon at addept.ws)
[6/10] from: lennart:nylen:biz at: 16-Dec-2002 23:00
2002-12-16 21:42:10, "Ammon Johnson" <[ammon--addept--ws]> wrote:
>Hi, > > I agree, noinstall by default. ;-0
You guys get my vote too! /Lennart Fridén ([lennart--nylen--biz]) The World is not sane so why should I be?
[7/10] from: mat:plothatching at: 16-Dec-2002 22:56
Hi Petr, Petr> Rebol registry settings cause nothing less than trouble! Absolutely. The registry is Evil and must be punished! Regards, Mat.
[8/10] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 16-Dec-2002 23:43
Lennart Fridén wrote:
>2002-12-16 21:42:10, "Ammon Johnson" <[ammon--addept--ws]> wrote: >>Hi,
<<quoted lines omitted: 3>>>> >You guys get my vote too!
And I would even make it a marketing advantage - "Copy & run!" :-) -pekr-
[9/10] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 17-Dec-2002 0:19
>Hello Andrew, >Monday, December 16, 2002, 8:47:50 PM, you wrote:
<<quoted lines omitted: 24>>>hove to wait till tomorrow to test it on some computer where Rebol was >not installed yet.
yes, it is that, it will work. I noticed it some time ago that I needed to copy also some other files to make it work ...
[10/10] from: rebol-list2:seznam:cz at: 19-Dec-2002 20:08
Hello Petr, Tuesday, December 17, 2002, 12:19:02 AM, you wrote: PK> RebOldes wrote:
>>Hello Andrew, >>
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PK> yes, it is that, it will work. I noticed it some time ago that I needed PK> to copy also some other files to make it work ... I was trying it but it was no working when I had it on CD so I will have to find other way.... =( Oliva David )=======================( [oliva--david--seznam--cz] )== =( Earth/Europe/Czech_Republic/Brno )============================= =( coords: [lat: 49.22 long: 16.67] )=============================
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