[1/36] from: jeff::rebol::net at: 7-Jun-2001 20:38
Anyone want to join the REBOL/Zine? The REBOL/Zine is a simple cron job type mailing list that just sends out a weekly batch of articles to subscribers. It will be weekly. The articles will be about email length covering simple cool things you can do with REBOL. That's all there really is to it. The format is really open, though. People could even include poetry about REBOL, I suppose. T'was a man, Carl his name, Uttered REBOL of endless fame! Built the core, command and view, REBOL/SELECT/SKIP/NEXT/DO Ha ha. Fun stuff-- you know a basic simple zine where people send in their articles to a mailing address, someone gives them a quick eye over and then hits go, and the articles are all REBOL processed into a nice neat REBOL/Zine. Of course, one module spits out a nice new REBOL/Zine web page archiving the previous. Keep it very simple. I'd like to get it started if people were willing to help contribute articles. Articles should be things like: "Hey here's how you do X!" kind of thing, or "Hey did you know you can do: X??" or "This is a neat trick I discovered", etc.. Editorial's okay. You can also submit articles about how you want people to join your open source REBOL project etc, etc. Whatever-- an open forum. The only censorship will be a matter of readabilty, relevance to the community, limiting spam, that sort of thing. Also, if you'd like to write a REBOL article in your native (non-english) tongue, please do. We can always worry about translations latter. Besides, REBOL code is REBOL code, so we should all be able to understand that. I'd like to write an article or two and if you'd like to as well, please send me an email. After the ball gets rolling and there's enough material for a first issue we can post some way for people to subscribe and set up the web page-- but simple things first, let's write some articles.. "let's" meaning all you gurus out there! Let's put some of this brain power to a fun and productive use!! mail to: [jeff--rebol--com] with subject of: Here's an article for the 15-JUN-2001 issue of REBOL/Zine -jeff
[2/36] from: depotcity:telus at: 7-Jun-2001 22:35
That's a great idea. :) Who knows, maybe one day it'll get published. I'd buy it before "Yahoo Life". Terry Brownell
[3/36] from: coussement:c:js:mil:be at: 8-Jun-2001 9:22
Excellent ! I think there is a enormous potential of writers on this mailing list, but all the written stuff is spread over different web site... Bringing it all together should give the community lot of learning material ;-)) chr==
[4/36] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 8-Jun-2001 9:58
Hi Jeff, instead of joining to "Yes, excelent, go for it" kind of email replies, I would like to suggest to at least think about following: - we currently have some sites which would deserve more support - rebol.org and rebolforces.com. I think that at least one of them could become kind of portal for Rebols around the world (look at http://www.qnxstart.com for example). It would require nice graphics and some mechanism. Should be based upon Rebol of course - not like perl based RT's website search engine ;-) ... your Rebol/Zine could become part of them .... and why? Because Rebol needs to have public presence/interface, while e-mail list is kind of hidden world ... .. just a suggestion, nothing more ... Cheers, -pekr- Jeff Kreis wrote:
[5/36] from: jeff:rebol at: 8-Jun-2001 1:07
Okay, simple subscription page has been set up for the REBOL/Zine: http://www.rebol.org/zine.html Once you enter your mail it will send you an authorization code. Return to the site, enter it and you will then have joined the subscription to the REBOL/Zine. [You can also unsubscribe there as well] If you have any problems with the subscription engine or encouter any bugs, please email me with lots of yelling, screaming and freaking out. :-) -jeff
[6/36] from: depotcity:telus at: 8-Jun-2001 1:32
Here's an idea for the first edition... an insiders look at Rebol HQ... photos, bios that sort of thing. Same for some of the guru's wouldn't hurt either. T Brownell
[7/36] from: carl:cybercraft at: 8-Jun-2001 20:35
On 08-Jun-01, Petr Krenzelok wrote:
> Hi Jeff, > instead of joining to "Yes, excelent, go for it" kind of email > replies, I would like to suggest to at least think about following: > - we currently have some sites which would deserve more support - > rebol.org and rebolforces.com.
I had the same thoughts, though more along the lines of "it's already been tried". The trouble is I think that programmers tend to approach writing articles in much the same way as they approach writing docs for their programs. Need I say more? (: The difference with a mailing list like this though is that they're usually asking questions or responding to discussions started by those questions. That they do respond to questions though shows the way forward, I think. Someone needs to ask programmer X to write article Y about subject Z, else it probably won't get written. -- Carl Read [carl--cybercraft--co--nz]
[8/36] from: gjones05:mail:orion at: 8-Jun-2001 5:57
From: "Jeff Kreis" ...
> If you have any problems with the subscription engine or > encouter any bugs, please email me with lots of yelling, > screaming and freaking out. :-)
Hi, Jeff, As, usual, I've got to throw in my usual disclaimer that I may not know what I'm talking about. With that said: Using a two step sign-up would seem to preclude the need to do a dns check. After all, bogus email addresses will never be authorized, but valid email addresses that don't return a response through dns will fail. Just my two cents, and I've already lost one of them. :-) --Scott Jones
[9/36] from: stefan:falk:slg:se at: 8-Jun-2001 13:04
I can't register, it says that it can't look up the domain, but I promise ya, it's there ;) /Regards Stefan
[10/36] from: chris:starforge:demon at: 8-Jun-2001 11:32
Carl Read wrote:
> The difference with a mailing list like this though is that they're > usually asking questions or responding to discussions started by > those questions. That they do respond to questions though shows the > way forward, I think. Someone needs to ask programmer X to write > article Y about subject Z, else it probably won't get written.
Exactly. I used to write monthly articles for an online mag, and the problem I had was actually thinking of something to talk about. In a slow month I'd be trying to come up with something interesting even on the day before the deadline. Maybe there should be a "theme", or a number of themes, to each issue, and the next issue's themes are advertised at the end of the current issue. Say something like: Next Issue: CGI techniques - POST or GET? What are they and how do I process them? - Baking and eating cookies: pitfalls and possibilities - Useful tricks for debugging CGI scripts That way people can worry about the solutions, rather than thinking up the problems as well ;) Just my 2p... /me goes to subscribe to the /zine list... Chris
[11/36] from: chris:starforge:demon at: 8-Jun-2001 12:47
> Maybe there should be a "theme", or a number of themes, to each issue, > and the next issue's themes are advertised at the end of the current > issue. Say something like:
BTW - I didn't mean that this is all that should be in the issues, only that some theme should be pre-determined to help developers. If somone finds a neat trick or useful technique then that could be added as a additional articles thingie? Just my slightly frazled brain kicking in there... (never try running 5 distance learning courses as the same time, eesh...) Chris
[12/36] from: jeff:rebol at: 8-Jun-2001 8:54
Theme's a good idea, but let's just get it out first and add themes as we go.. (-:
[13/36] from: jeff:rebol at: 8-Jun-2001 8:58
Woops-- sorry. Should be okay now... -jeff
[14/36] from: jeff:rebol at: 8-Jun-2001 8:56
> Maybe there should be a "theme", or a number of themes, to > each issue, and the next issue's themes are advertised at
<<quoted lines omitted: 4>>> - possibilities Useful tricks for debugging CGI > - scripts
Sounds like you've already got some good ideas for an article or two you'd like to write? :-) -jeff
[15/36] from: carl:rebol at: 8-Jun-2001 10:26
REBOL/Zine idea is cool. I'll contribute. Here's my first suggestion too: Restate the Zine contribution address with every email. I had to roll back through email to find it. :\ And, remind us busy folk that don't read every single email: how do we subscribe to the zine? -Carl
[16/36] from: jeff:rebol at: 8-Jun-2001 11:28
> REBOL/Zine idea is cool. I'll contribute.
Yep. That's absolutely mandatory, Papa REBOL! :-)
> Here's my first suggestion too: > > Restate the Zine contribution address with every > email. I had to roll back through email to find > it. :\
Okay, in the interests of keeping things simple contributions go: [rebolzine--yahoo--com] You can also send them to me at my rebol account, in the meantime, but the above address will be the "official" zine emailing address. People should know that the contributions can be short as well.. [Martin--Middleton--speechworks--com] just wrote a message to the mailing list about using the REBOL plugin with Opera browser. This short little piece is a good example of the kinds of things the Zine could include. These things certainly good on the mailinglist, but of course, they are mixed in with lots of other threads. In the Zine, the trick and tip ratio should be really high. Speaking of which-- I may occasionally add in the zine quotes from different posts from the mailing list traffic which show those kinds of tricks and what not, if no one minds. I'll alert the author(s) when I do.
> And, remind us busy folk that don't read every single > email: how do we subscribe to the zine?
The subscription bot is: http://www.rebol.org/zine.html -jeff
[17/36] from: chris:starforge at: 8-Jun-2001 19:43
#08-Jun-01# Message from *Jeff Kreis*: Hi Jeff,
> Sounds like you've already got some good ideas for an article > or two you'd like to write? :-)
Heh, sort of :) I'll try to make time to write something ASAP :) Chris -- New sig in the works Explorer 2260, Designer and Coder http://www.starforge.co.uk -- Turnaucka's Law: The attention span of a computer is only as long as its electrical cord.
[18/36] from: rsaathoff:datajunction at: 11-Jun-2001 10:58
I had a problem authorizing my subscription to the REBOL 'zine. When I entered my authorization code it said "uggh, some error happened." Am I subscribed? Or do I need to go and resubmit my stuff? Ryan
[19/36] from: jeff:rebol at: 11-Jun-2001 9:39
Howdy, Ryan: I don't see you in there. You can just DO the email that you get back from the bot and that should take care of it. Umm.. in either case, I'm just going to go ahead and move anyone in the unauthenticated file over into the authenticated before the presses roll and we'll sort it all out later. The subscribe bot needs to be fixed up a little, but we just needed something quick to get going in the meatime-- a quick night-hack. 58 subscribers so far... :-) If anyone has any problems with the brain dead subscriber bot, just drop me a line and I'll make sure you get added to the list! -jeff
[20/36] from: gjones05:mail:orion at: 16-Jun-2001 7:10
I enjoyed reading the first issue of REBOL/Zine. It was a very nice, and I learned more new tricks. My thanks go to all the contributors and a special thanks to Jeff K. for getting the ball rolling. --Scott Jones
[21/36] from: ptretter:charter at: 16-Jun-2001 7:25
Ditto! Paul Tretter
[22/36] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 16-Jun-2001 15:00
----- Original Message ----- From: "GS Jones" <[gjones05--mail--orion--org]> To: <[rebol-list--rebol--com]> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 2:10 PM Subject: [REBOL] REBOL/Zine
> I enjoyed reading the first issue of REBOL/Zine. It was a very nice, and I > learned more new tricks. My thanks go to all the contributors and a
> thanks to Jeff K. for getting the ball rolling.
It is so cool, that my typical "improve" kind of response has to appear :-) I think that it a little bit shave if there is no link to rebol e-zines, so here my questions follow: - I can see e-zine has some structure. What about using make-spec (or make-doc) to generate .html? - or even VID inteface, allowing rebol code to become hot=clickable=runnable directly from e-zine? - maybe it is even worth (as I can see qualiy of articles is pretty high), that RT would add it into its website developer section? I hope others will second at least my last point. Rebol website has already FAQ section, e-zine exists, so work is done. It is worth adding to website even in its current text form. It is even worth the mention on main site. It is so cool ... ah, I already said it? Well, after walking thru Jeff's rooms and house my brains somehow lives in some strange kind of recursion ;-) Cheers, -pekr-
[23/36] from: rgaither:triad:rr at: 16-Jun-2001 9:53
Hi All, As someone who has been unsubscribed while travelling I seem to have missed this item. Can someone fill me in as to what and how to get this first issue of REBOL/Zine? Thanks, Rod.
>I enjoyed reading the first issue of REBOL/Zine. It was a very nice, and I >learned more new tricks. My thanks go to all the contributors and a special
<<quoted lines omitted: 4>>>[rebol-request--rebol--com] with "unsubscribe" in the >subject, without the quotes.
Rod Gaither Oak Ridge, NC - USA [rgaither--triad--rr--com]
[24/36] from: joel:neely:fedex at: 16-Jun-2001 9:56
Hi, Jeff, As someone who was on a short vacation last week-end and didn't catch up on email quickly enough... I've (belatedly) subscribed. Are back issues accessible? (whimper, whine, beg... ;-) -jn- ------------------------------------------------------------ Programming languages: compact, powerful, simple ... Pick any two! joel'dot'neely'at'fedex'dot'com
[25/36] from: gjones05:mail:orion at: 16-Jun-2001 10:02
From: "Rod Gaither"
> Hi All, > > As someone who has been unsubscribed while > travelling I seem to have missed this item. > > Can someone fill me in as to what and how to > get this first issue of REBOL/Zine?
Here is where to sign up for future issues: http://www.rebol.org/zine.html Here is the thread that kicked it off (watch for line wrap): http://www.escribe.com/internet/rebol/index.html?by=OneThread&t=%5BREBOL%5D RE BOL%2FZine Here is a continuation thread: http://www.escribe.com/internet/rebol/index.html?by=OneThread&t=%5BREBOL%5D Mo re REBOL%2FZine I'll send you the first issue to your email address as an attachment. --Scott Jones
[26/36] from: learned:talentsinc at: 16-Jun-2001 10:22
Hmmm, I did sign up (at least i THOUGHT I did) and I never got it. Any more of those back issues available? Thanks Ed
[27/36] from: jeff:rebol at: 16-Jun-2001 9:00
REBOL/Zine has launched!! [SEND IN YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS!!!!!] Allen's rebolforces.com will be the official repository, but I think it's late there right now, so in the meantime, you can find a plain make-doc'd html version at the mirror site: http://www.rebol.org/zine/ -jeff
[28/36] from: d_urmson:yaho:o at: 16-Jun-2001 17:24
ditto thanx d On Saturday, June 16, 2001, at 04:22 PM, Learned wrote:
[29/36] from: jthomas:apollo:clamm:it at: 16-Jun-2001 18:59
Hello GS On 16-Giu-01, GS Jones wrote:
>GJ >GJ I'll send you the first issue to your email address as an attachment. >GJ --Scott Jones
Is it possible to have one, too? Regards -- Joachim Thomas - [jthomas--mail--evo--it] - ICQ 18088459 Amiga1260+Amiga4060PPC604 Member of ATO (italian Division) http://bilbo.di.unipi.it/~ato-it & Phoenix Consortium Concerti - Gruppi Musicali & Locali http://www.istage.org Virtual PHOTO Gallery http://www.terzomercato.com/free/jt_home I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein
[30/36] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 16-Jun-2001 20:48
The world outside rebol ml will know thru Czech Amiga News shortly :-) http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga -pekr-
[31/36] from: dness:home at: 17-Jun-2001 0:57
Is the rather glaring use of `Puzzels' in Zine#1 some piece of Rebol-arcanumI don't understand, or just a very distracting (mis) spelling?
[32/36] from: jeff:rebol at: 17-Jun-2001 5:42
You bet, that's REBOL-arcanumI meaning "a word intended to be glaring and distracting". Caution should be used around all REBOL Puzzels to avoid becoming totally distracted by its glaringness resulting in the loss of control of your vehicle. -jeff
[33/36] from: chris:starforge at: 17-Jun-2001 10:22
#17-Jun-01# Message from *David Ness*: Hi David,
> Is the rather glaring use of `Puzzels' in Zine#1 some piece of > Rebol-arcanumI don't understand, or just a very distracting > (mis) spelling?
[This episode did not receive thorough editing, so please forgive any grammar or typographical errors you find. ] ;) Chris -- New sig in the works Explorer 2260, Designer and Coder http://www.starforge.co.uk -- ODD SIGNS FROM ENGLAND 7. ON A CHURCH DOOR:: This is the gate of Heaven. Enter ye all by this door. (This door is kept locked because of the draft. Please use side entrance)
[34/36] from: coussement:c:js:mil:be at: 18-Jun-2001 14:26
Jeff: Great thing you've accomplished ! I like the style and the content. I hope I will find some time to write in a readable English an article about my findings and tricks ;-)) CU, chr==
[35/36] from: jeff:rebol at: 1-Aug-2001 8:59
Okay, we've had a delay in publishing #4 resulting from different time based causes... So the next REBOL/Zine will be this Friday!! REBOL/Zine #4 !!! SEND IN YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS!! SEND IN YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS!! SEND IN YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS!! SEND IN YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS!! SEND IN YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS!! SEND IN YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS!! SEND IN YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS!! SEND IN YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS!! SEND IN YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS!! SEND IN YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS!! send to ---> [rebolzine--yahoo--com] <--- Anything about REBOL. Any language you write in. Any time, any where! insert REBOL-ZINE any [get 'article in your-brain] Quick! Hurry!! Run!! Write! Send!! make-doc format!! THE REBOL/Zine loves you!! Send your articles!! SEND SEND SEND!! SEND [REBOLZINE--YAHOO--COM] READ %YOUR-REBOL-ARTICLE.TXT GO! RUN!! HURRY!! LOOP 1000 [SEND SEND SEND SEND!!!]
[36/36] from: arolls:bigpond:au at: 3-Aug-2001 13:32
> insert REBOL-ZINE any [get 'article in your-brain]
Shouldn't that be [get in your-brain 'article] ? And I don't see the definition anywhere for your-brain object.
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