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 [1/5] from: rebolek:seznam:cz at: 11-Oct-2001 3:02


I wanted to upload a new game to my reb (and I think it may be uploaded) but 'coz REBOL reads IE cache (I don't mind what Holger said it's not only me who had proven the fact) I don't know if the game is working. Well, it's not finished version, I will upload it tommorow, so I won't give any adress. So, why I wrote ths mail? Because I do not like behavior of RT's people. You say - BUG; they say - NO!, HA HA!; you say - YES, BUG, LOOK HERE; the say - ... - well, they do not say anything at all. :(

 [2/5] from: doublec:acc at: 11-Oct-2001 14:45


In what way do you think REBOL uses the IE cache? If RT has said they don't then it is quite likely they don't. Various IE cache files may appear to be opened by the REBOL interpreter but this does not mean the cache is used by REBOL. IE attaches itself quite low level into the operating system. Using a number of reasonable Windows API functions can result in these files being opened by an application. I have applications written in C that appear to use the IE cache simply because they use various Shell API functions. But my application and nothing my application does pulls data from the cache. The same type of thing may be happening with the REBOL interpreter. Chris. http://www.double.co.nz/dylan

 [3/5] from: holger::rebol::com at: 10-Oct-2001 19:47


On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 03:02:06AM +0200, [rebolek--seznam--cz] wrote:
> I wanted to upload a new game to my reb (and I think it may be uploaded) but 'coz REBOL reads IE cache (I don't mind what Holger said it's not only me who had proven the fact) I don't know if the game is working. Well, it's not finished version, I will upload it tommorow, so I won't give any adress. So, why I wrote ths mail? Because I do not like behavior of RT's people. You say - BUG; they say - NO!, HA HA!; you say - YES, BUG, LOOK HERE; the say - ... - well, they do not say anything at all. :(
IE's cache is IE's cache. It is private. REBOL does not know where it is, does not care, and has no reason to access it. When downloading a file by HTTP, REBOL always creates direct socket connections, either to a proxy server or to the web server, as you configured. No exceptions. REBOL never accesses other programs' caches in any way - ever. Besides, the higher-level functions in REBOL are completely platform-independent. There is no Windows-specific code (and thus IE-specific code) anywhere at that layer at all. This means a bug in View could no more cause REBOL to magically access the IE cache than it could make REBOL give your computer wings so it can fly. There is no code for that in REBOL, and such code does not suddenly materialize out of thin air. Those are the facts. If REBOL reads a cached page instead of the original then there are three possible reasons for it: 1. You have configured REBOL to use a proxy server, and it is that proxy server that caches the page (not anything on your machine). In that case disable the proxy server, connect through a different proxy server, or make sure that the proxy server flushes its cache or uses correct caching algorithms. 2. Some machine downstream from you (most likely either your ISP or some connection-sharing router you are using) acts as a transparent proxy server. Same solution as 1. 3. You have installed something on your machine that makes your machine itself act as a transparent proxy, using IE's cache in some way. This is most likely an "Internet accelerator" of some kind that you installed to speed up web transfers. It could also be a firewall or "connection sharing" tool with http direction functions. Either way, it is something specific to your setup that is unrelated to REBOL, and not reproducable here at RT. The only thing we can do is explain to you (again) what might be happening, and give you hints where to look for the problem (Windows Registry, Windows Add/Remove Programs panel, the FAQ page of your ISP etc.), as we have done before. We cannot "fix" the problem for you because it is outside of our scope and responsibility. We have told you these things here on the list and directly by email several times, and cannot really do more than repeat those facts. I have no idea what kind of different behavior you would expect. -- Holger Kruse [holger--rebol--com]

 [4/5] from: deadzaphod:flyingparty at: 10-Oct-2001 22:25


You can look at the source yourself to see that Rebol can't be the source of this problem, just by typing "print mold system/schemes/http" at the console. The only parts you can't directly see the implementation of are dealing with plain TCP sockets. Have you tryed retrieving the page that appears to load from the cache by telnet'ing to the web server. That should give you the same result as rebol gets every time if you send an identical request. And because the windows telnet client predates IE, you can be certain that it CANNOT access the IE cache directly. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[rebolek--seznam--cz]> To: <[rebol-list--rebol--com]> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 6:02 PM Subject: [REBOL] No ANN
> I wanted to upload a new game to my reb (and I think it may be uploaded)
but 'coz REBOL reads IE cache (I don't mind what Holger said it's not only me who had proven the fact) I don't know if the game is working. Well, it's not finished version, I will upload it tommorow, so I won't give any adress. So, why I wrote ths mail? Because I do not like behavior of RT's people. You say - BUG; they say - NO!, HA HA!; you say - YES, BUG, LOOK HERE; the say - ... - well, they do not say anything at all. :(

 [5/5] from: sqlab:gmx at: 11-Oct-2001 10:15


> I wanted to upload a new game to my reb (and I think it may be uploaded) > but 'coz REBOL reads IE cache (I don't mind what Holger said it's not only > me who had proven the fact) I don't know if the game is working. Well,
it's
> not finished version, I will upload it tommorow, so I won't give any > adress. So, why I wrote ths mail? Because I do not like behavior of RT's
people.
> You say - BUG; they say - NO!, HA HA!; you say - YES, BUG, LOOK HERE; the > say - ... - well, they do not say anything at all. :( > --
You can change the location, where Rebol places it's cache by changing system/options/home: %myplace and Rebol uses %myplace/public as cache directory. And of course you can set the cache directory of IE to Rebols cache. Then IE and Rebol really do use the same cache. AR