Portability - song of the past?

[1/8] from: biuro::terminal::sky::pl at: 19-Jul-2002 12:13

Recently i bought a Psion REVO. In my brain there was images of rebol beta releases for EPOC. Now I can install on it (if I really want) Perl and Python - but no Rebol. In my eyes it seems that "almost" anywhere is for RT enough. Forget portability - there is IOS?? I read in archives some informations about "why not", but maybe somebody HAVE a copy to share? greets to all Aleksander K.

[2/8] from: ammon:rcslv at: 19-Jul-2002 2:05

Hi, NO Portability is not a song of the past, if you want it on a particular platform, and you want it now, you will have to pay for it, because there are other ppl paying for other things to be done. ;-) Now if you aren't in too big of a hurry then you can simply wait and see if/when your particular platform is released. I say "if" because ports are based on user request. if you don't request a particular platform, it might not get ported. ;-( I will tell you one thing though, unless somone with sufficient cash steps in the next new port will be for Mac OSX as it is currently the most requested (just a personal observation). My 2 little red cents. ;-) Ammon A short time ago, Terminal, sent an email stating:

[3/8] from: carl:cybercraft at: 20-Jul-2002 9:55

On 19-Jul-02, Ammon Johnson wrote:

> Hi, > NO Portability is not a song of the past, if you want it on a

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> requested (just a personal observation). > My 2 little red cents. ;-)

So, what's it cost to have RT port REBOL or View to a platform? Maybe users without could have a whip-round. -- Carl Read

[4/8] from: ammon:rcslv at: 20-Jul-2002 4:48

Hi, === Original Message === << So, what's it cost to have RT port REBOL or View to a platform? Maybe users without could have a whip-round.

RT alone knows that answer, and it is likely to vary with the platform all that I know is it isn't going to be cheap! I don't get the rest of your statement/question, users without what? And exactly what do you mean by whip-around? Enjoy!! Ammon -- Carl Read

[5/8] from: carl:cybercraft at: 20-Jul-2002 12:20

On 20-Jul-02, [ammon--rcslv--com] wrote:

> << > So, what's it cost to have RT port REBOL or View to a platform? > Maybe users without could have a whip-round. >>> > RT alone knows that answer, and it is likely to vary with the > platform all that I know is it isn't going to be cheap!

So, have we reached the stage where the OS providers have to pay to have REBOL ported to their OS? And if so, will they also have to continue to pay for updates to appear for their OS?

> I don't get > the rest of your statement/question, users without what?

Without a version of Core or View on their platform.

> And exactly what do you mean by whip-around? >From Merriam-Webster 0nLine at: http://www.m-w.com/home.htm

---8<--- Pronunciation: 'hwip-"raund, 'wip- Function: noun Date: 1887 chiefly British : a collection of money made usually for a benevolent purpose [had a whip-round to help the couple pay for a Paris honeymoon -- The People] ---8<--- I know - getting a bit colloquial there for an international forum. (: -- Carl Read

[6/8] from: ammon:rcslv at: 20-Jul-2002 6:48

Hi, Please don't get me wrong here! I am not part of RT, so I should probably be more careful what I say! I am sure that RT Will continue to produce cross-platform software one step at a time. I believe that the goal at RT, as it always has been is to be as cross-platform as possible. I am sure that they have somewhere on there calendar, or in there plans to release ports for as many OSs as possible ordered by consumer demand. Now one person asking for a particular platform counts as one person, but how many ppl does one person asking for a particular platform flashing a couple thousand dollars count as? All I am really trying to say is that there is a lot for RT to do before they are going to get to porting to some of the other OSs unless someone can change there priorities. Consider how many OSs the newest beta is available for and what is left before it can be released as a finished product for any of them. Consider that IOS seems to be driving them a lot a business at the present moment, and IOS is mainly for medium to large corporations which generally use one of three OSs. My other 2 pennies, OK I am broke now. ;-) Ammon === Original Message === On 20-Jul-02, [ammon--rcslv--com] wrote:

So, have we reached the stage where the OS providers have to pay to have REBOL ported to their OS? And if so, will they also have to continue to pay for updates to appear for their OS?

> I don't get > the rest of your statement/question, users without what?

Without a version of Core or View on their platform.

> And exactly what do you mean by whip-around? >From Merriam-Webster 0nLine at: http://www.m-w.com/home.htm

[7/8] from: bry:itnisk at: 20-Jul-2002 15:53

>So, have we reached the stage where the OS providers have to pay to >have REBOL ported to their OS? And if so, will they also have to >continue to pay for updates to appear for their OS?

That doesn't seem like a winning business plan there, unless it were something like a Rebol embedded and the OS provider could license Rebol as the scripting language for their embedded apps.

[8/8] from: geza67:freestart:hu at: 3-Aug-2002 22:34

Hello Carl,

>> particular platform, and you want it now, you will have to pay for >> it, because there are other ppl paying for other things to be done. > So, what's it cost to have RT port REBOL or View to a platform? Maybe > users without could have a whip-round.

Just a reprise of my old woe: /View on Pocket PC ... How many of REBOLers would appreciate that this extremely small footprint development system appears on PPC? Althugh /Core is running on PPC but what is it good for... ? ;-) Having a GUI builder on this platform would march REBOL into mobile computing. P2P and Internet goes day by day even more mobile - if REBOL would catch wave and get ported (even its non-free IOS) to WinCE a bunch of low-resource, homogenous internet applications would be available. -- Best regards, Geza mailto:[geza67--freestart--hu]

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