Why no Forum?
[1/5] from: mail:defiantpc at: 3-Jan-2004 18:31
I was wondering why a mail list instead of a forum? A forum is more of a community, better organized and answers for newbs like myself are readily available. It would make things so much easier just to enter a search than to read through hundreds of archived mail's for a quick answer, furthermore it can send e-mails notifying users of new posts just like a mail list. We have several servers and I imagine others on this list also have the space to host a forum and icon board and phpbb take about 20 seconds to setup, so I ask again why no forum? The only forum I have found is in french and it has no language selection for non french users. Any ideas why there are no forums for rebol users? Thank's for your time & sorry if that sounded like a rant... -Mj.
[2/5] from: antonr:iinet:au at: 4-Jan-2004 11:46
Check out altme safeworlds. Anton.
[3/5] from: tim:johnsons-web at: 3-Jan-2004 16:00
* Defiant Mail <[mail--defiantpc--com]> [040103 15:42]:
> I was wondering why a mail list instead of a forum? > It would make things so much easier just to enter a search than to read through hundreds of archived mail's
<<quoted lines omitted: 4>>> Any ideas why there are no forums for rebol users? > Thank's for your time & sorry if that sounded like a rant... -Mj.
There's no disputing taste I guess, but I can roar through my email using Mutt, and prefer it that way, but there's nothing wrong with options -- back in the early days of CGI, I use to build forums for customers....
> A forum is more of a community, better organized and answers for newbs like myself are readily available.
Yes, I would think a forum does 'model' a community well. In either case it is important not to 'overload' a thread, but to create a new one or a new subject as the content changes - IMHO - question: can a forum such as you describe above 'mirror' a ML? Also, isn't forum access speed controlled by bandwidth - since it is web-based? I do a lot of reseach with newsgroups and slrn/slrnpull which makes it exceeding quick to navigate among subject threads, also very nice. cheers tim -- Tim Johnson <[tim--johnsons-web--com]> http://www.alaska-internet-solutions.com<
[4/5] from: mail::defiantpc::com at: 3-Jan-2004 19:51
Here is an example: http://www.webhostingtalk.com There are over 53,000 members I have never seen less than 200 members on at one time and the most members online at the same time was 18,517 I have never noticed any lag time due to bandwidth and I have been a member since 2002. The great thing about forums is the ability to make advanced searches and section the sub forums into catogories. A rebol forum could have subs such as newbee section, liscensing and distribution, code help, view, core, etc... Another great thing about having a forum is that you can make common questions sticky so vets aren't answereing the same newb questions time and time again. As for the ability to emulate a Ml. On forums such as the one above in your personal settings you can select any threads or forums you would like to subscribe to and you will recieve notice via e-mail whenever there are new posts. Anyhoot as I am new to Rebol I certainly find It difficult to find detailed information without spending lots of time looking through loads of archived mail, but then again you know what they say about opinions. ; ) -Maryjane
[5/5] from: carl:cybercraft at: 24-Jan-2004 11:42
On 04-Jan-04, Defiant Mail wrote:
> Here is an example: > http://www.webhostingtalk.com
<<quoted lines omitted: 8>>> forum is that you can make common questions sticky so vets aren't > answereing the same newb questions time and time again.
But that'd take the fun out of answering the questions in a different way each time. ;)
> As for the ability to emulate a Ml. On forums such as the one above > in your personal settings you can select any threads or forums you
<<quoted lines omitted: 4>>> loads of archived mail, but then again you know what they say about > opinions.
We accept them by the dozen here. ;) For searching older emails there's Escribe... http://www.escribe.com/internet/rebol/index.html and Graham Chiu's... http://www.compkarori.co.nz/x.php?/rebolml for newer messages. I think the popularity of the mailing list is just how things panned out with REBOL. There have been REBOL forums such as the one at Rebol Forces (written in REBOL)... http://www.rebolforces.com/ but that's not publicly accessable now, it seems, so whether in use or not I don't know. But I don't think it ever had the kind of traffic this list has. Likewise there were (and still are) specific REBOL mailing lists on YahooGroups dealing with dialects, newbie questions, parsing and so on, but they have next to no posts. As someone said, AltMe Worlds seems the main alternative to this list. I also think there may not be enough REBOL users for too many alternative ways of getting info about it - it could lead to too much fragmentation and no quick responses to your questions. Still, nothing to stop you starting a REBOL forum somewhere of course. :) -- Carl Read
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