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Goin' nuts, man!

 [1/13] from: edanaii:cox at: 28-Feb-2003 11:01


OK, newest dilemma. I cannot read my website using REBOL and FTP. I get errors every time I use the same URL. And yet, when I take that exact same URL and paste it into Netscape , it works, no problems. I assume it's some kind of setting, either in the 'READ command or with my User.r or something like it. Any clues out there? -- Sincerely, | Tell me, tell me, where I'm going; I don't know Ed Dana | where I've been. Tell me, tell me. Oh won't you Software Developer | tell me, and then tell me again! My body's aching, 1Ghz Athlon Amiga | my heart is breaking and I don't know where to go! | So tell me, tell me, why don't you tell me? I just | gotta know! - Styx, Crystal Ball

 [2/13] from: rebol:techscribe at: 28-Feb-2003 14:42


Hi Ed. If provide the expression you use to access the Web site and copy and paste the errors you get, it would much easier to answer your question. /elan Quoting Ed Dana <[EDanaII--Cox--net]>:
> OK, newest dilemma. > I cannot read my website using REBOL and FTP. I get errors every time I
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> [rebol-request--rebol--com] with "unsubscribe" in the > subject, without the quotes.
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 [3/13] from: petr:krenzelok:trz:cz at: 28-Feb-2003 19:45


Ed Dana wrote:
> OK, newest dilemma. > I cannot read my website using REBOL and FTP. I get errors every time
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> with my User.r or something like it. > Any clues out there?
URL, please? :-) -pekr-

 [4/13] from: edanaii::cox::net at: 28-Feb-2003 12:34


[rebol--techscribe--com] wrote:
>Hi Ed. > >If provide the expression you use to access the Web site and copy and paste the >errors you get, it would much easier to answer your question. >
Sorry, but I didn't think it was necessary. It is the exact same URL (no differences whatsoever) to connect to the site through Netscape, it worked without complaint. This suggests to me that there's nothing wrong with the URL. As to the error:
>> read URL
** Access Error: Network timeout ** Where: confirm ** Near: read URL This was done before trying Netscape. so it can't be that Netscape locked REBOL out. And the error message I get is not always consistent. It changes. -- Sincerely, | Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you Ed Dana | want to test a man's character, give him power. Software Developer | -- Abraham Lincoln 1Ghz Athlon Amiga |

 [5/13] from: sunandadh:aol at: 28-Feb-2003 14:23


Ed:
> I cannot read my website using REBOL and FTP. I get errors every time I > use the same URL. And yet, when I take that exact same URL and paste it > into Netscape , it works, no problems.
I had a lot of trouble with FTP -- random failures and status messages about quotas being off being treated as error messages and stopping the show. Then I installed a more recent version. Sunanda.

 [6/13] from: edanaii:cox at: 28-Feb-2003 12:37


Petr Krenzelok wrote:
> URL, please? :-) >
Sorry, I ain't postin' it. :) It included a user/password. Private, you know... See my response to Elan. -- Sincerely, | The Traveller awaits the morning tide. He doesn't Ed Dana | know what's on the other side. But something deep Software Developer | inside of him keeps telling him to go. He hasn't 1Ghz Athlon Amiga | found a reason to say no. | -- the Alan Parsons Project, Days are Numbers. =========== http://OurWorld.CompuServe.com/Homepages/EDanaII ===========

 [7/13] from: edanaii:cox at: 28-Feb-2003 14:00


[SunandaDH--aol--com] wrote:
>Ed: >>I cannot read my website using REBOL and FTP. I get errors every time I
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>Then I installed a more recent version. >Sunanda.
Any particular version? Or just the latest and greatest? I assume the latter. -- Sincerely, | We're Human Beings, with the blood of a million Ed Dana | savage years on our hands! But we can stop it! We Software Developer | can admit we're killers, but we're not going to 1Ghz Athlon Amiga | kill today. That's all it takes! Knowing that we're | not going to kill... Today! -- Shatner, Star Trek.

 [8/13] from: carl:cybercraft at: 1-Mar-2003 9:55


On 01-Mar-03, Ed Dana wrote:
> Petr Krenzelok wrote: >> URL, please? :-) > Sorry, I ain't postin' it. :) It included a user/password. Private, > you know... > See my response to Elan.
Well, just change the words so we can see if there's anything wrong with the format you're using... -- Carl Read

 [9/13] from: gscottjones:mchsi at: 28-Feb-2003 15:37


Hi, Ed,
> Petr Krenzelok wrote: > > URL, please? :-)
From: "Ed Dana"
> Sorry, I ain't postin' it. :) It included a user/password. Private, you > know... > > See my response to Elan.
You like to make things challenging. :) I don't think anyone would have wanted to to post your username and password, nor even necessarily even give the real website, but sometimes posting even a munged version gives ideas as to what may be going wrong. We all know that ftp gives more than its fair share of problems. I assume that you are doing something like the following: ftp-info: read ftp://myname:[mypassword--ftp--mysite--com]/ and that even this simple query is not working. Some of the causes can include problems such as: 1) the username may include an non-standard simple (like the ampersand), like: [myname--mysite--com] 2) your site has limited number of logons under ftp and you have exceeded it I'll put aside these sorts of issues for now. The one error that you gave shows that REBOL is unable to complete the logon because it is not receiving the correct "stimulus/response" pairs. When the ftp scheme asks the net-utils to confirm a proper logon, it passes the following block as a check: open-check: [ none ["220" "230"] ["USER" port/user] "331" ["PASS" port/pass] "230" "SYST" "*" ] It looks for 220 or 230, then sends USER myname. It waits for 331, and then sends PASS mypass. It waits for 230 then sends SYST and waits for *. Likely something not fully standard is being passed, thereby messing up the sequence. The best way to dissect this problem is to type: trace/net on and *then* do your ftp access. The somewhat lengthy listing will give an excellent idea of where REBOL is hanging. Frequently easy patches can be applied to let REBOL play nice with slightly non-standard ftp servers. If you give this a try, and the problem is not obvious, you may wish to post the trace/net response (with any sensitive info munged to your satisfaction) and then we'll have more to go on. I hope that gives you some ideas on how to proceed. --Scott Jones

 [10/13] from: sunandadh:aol at: 28-Feb-2003 18:03


Ed:
> Any particular version? Or just the latest and greatest? I assume the > latter.
The latest View is okay, I think. I tend to use Link for FTP and that's never failed me. Though it can't (correct me if I'm wrong, everyone else) do CHMODs, so I use SmartFTP for that. Sunanda,

 [11/13] from: edanaii:cox at: 28-Feb-2003 16:43


Carl Read wrote:
>On 01-Mar-03, Ed Dana wrote: >>Petr Krenzelok wrote:
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>Well, just change the words so we can see if there's anything wrong >with the format you're using...
Sorry again, I wasn't trying to be difficult. :) I'm confident that the URL is not the problem, it is the standard FTP://User:[Pass--Server--com], that's why I pointed out that using it in Netscape works fine. Further investigation has revealed that I can FTP fine using Core on either Windows or Linux, but not using View on Linux (I haven't tried View on Windows, yet). -- Sincerely, | Cold Hearted Orb, that rules the night. Removes Ed Dana | the colours from our sight! Red is gray and Software Developer | yellow white! But we decide which is right... 1Ghz Athlon Amiga | And which is an illusion! | -- The Moody Blues, Late Lament.

 [12/13] from: amicom:sonic at: 28-Feb-2003 22:37


Try system/schemes/ftp/passive: true or alternately system/schemes/ftp/passive: none Bohdan "Bo" Lechnowsky Lechnowsky Technical Consulting

 [13/13] from: edanaii:cox at: 1-Mar-2003 8:01


Bohdan or Rosemary Lechnowsky wrote:
> Try > system/schemes/ftp/passive: true > or alternately > system/schemes/ftp/passive: none >
Bingo! We have a winner! Setting to TRUE did the trick. Thanks Bohdan! :) -- Sincerely, | Cold Hearted Orb, that rules the night. Removes Ed Dana | the colours from our sight! Red is gray and Software Developer | yellow white! But we decide which is right... 1Ghz Athlon Amiga | And which is an illusion! | -- The Moody Blues, Late Lament.

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