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UNICODE SUPORT (was Re: Re: Google + SOAP)

 [1/5] from: louisaturk:eudoramail at: 20-Apr-2002 14:48


At 06:10 PM 4/20/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> > What lacks, for example, is Unicode, > >Yes...lack of Unicode support in REBOL is something that I've always >found extremely surprising.
Same here. It seems a must for a language trying enable communication between computers and people all over the world. A long time ago Holger said that Unicode support is planned. Now I have a very urgent need for it. Does anyone know when the plan is going to come to pass? Louis

 [2/5] from: holger:rebol at: 20-Apr-2002 13:37


On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 02:48:11PM -0500, Dr. Louis A. Turk wrote:
> A long time ago Holger said that Unicode support is planned. Now I have a > very urgent need for it. Does anyone know when the plan is going to come > to pass?
Like most non-trivial extensions to REBOL, Unicode support is not likely to happen soon unless there is a direct commercial demand for it. In other words, if you have a commercial use for it and are prepared to sign commercial licensing and consulting agreements, then please contact us, and we can implement Unicode support for you quickly. Otherwise it may be a longer wait, because our focus is on the business side these days. -- Holger Kruse [kruse--nordicglobal--com]

 [3/5] from: louisaturk:eudoramail at: 20-Apr-2002 19:33


Holger, At 01:37 PM 4/20/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 02:48:11PM -0500, Dr. Louis A. Turk wrote: > > A long time ago Holger said that Unicode support is planned. Now I have a
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>quickly. Otherwise it may be a longer wait, because our focus is on >the business side these days.
Thanks for letting us know. Naturally, I was hoping unicode support was right at the door. I hope someone out there meets your requirements. Louis

 [4/5] from: chris:langreiter at: 21-Apr-2002 3:29


> for it. In other words, if you have a commercial use for it and > are prepared to sign commercial licensing and consulting agreements, > then please contact us, and we can implement Unicode support for you > quickly. Otherwise it may be a longer wait, because our focus is on > the business side these days.
Which I can most certainly relate to ;-) On the other hand, aren't we going to play some kind of chicken and egg game then? It would be very helpful to have some kind of semi-official timeline of when certain features are planned to be implemented, regardless of immediate commercial demand , tho it's certainly nice to be positively surprised by new releases as well (as I have often been). From a project planning viewpoint, that's often just not feasible. Best regards, -- Chris

 [5/5] from: louisaturk::eudoramail::com at: 21-Apr-2002 0:22


Holger, When you finally get to unicode, perhaps the following free open source c library will be worth looking at. Now I'm not trying to hurry you up or anything like that. :>) Louis http://www-124.ibm.com/icu/ International Components for Unicode Documentation Overview In the International Components for Unicode, there are several categories of functionality: Low-level Unicode/Resource Attributes: ("common" library) Utilities for Unicode Character and String Handling Unicode String Class Conversion Interface Locale handling Resource Bundles High-level Unicode Internationalization: ("i18n" library) Text Boundary Analysis (Word/Sentence Break Iterators) Collation (Sorting) Formatting =97 Date/Time/Numbers/Currency Transliteration Layout Engine for Complex Text Takes runs of styled Unicode text and builds data structures for display and printing. (A rasterizer is not included.) Character Set Information As part of the ICU project, we are collecting mapping tables between Unicode and legacy codepages from actual implementations (operating systems). We make them available as a service to everyone. The tables are provided in a format for use with ICU, as well as a format developed by the Unicode Consortium. See our charset page. Unicode-stdio ("ustdio") library This is a library with input/output functions similar to the C stdio library. It is currently not supported but provided as-is. ICU uses the Java model for locale-hierarchical resource bundles. Multiple locales can be used at a time. ICU is thread-safe: Different ICU service objects can be used by different threads. For more details, see the (draft) User Guide and the API References below. API References Main Index Alphabetical Index of all C++ classes in ICU Class Hierarchy index What computer languages does ICU support? ICU4C (ICU) is written in C and C++, and ICU4J is written in Java=99. ICU License - ICU 1.8.1 and later COPYRIGHT AND PERMISSION NOTICE Copyright (c) 1995-2001 International Business Machines Corporation and others All rights reserved. Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the Software ), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, provided that the above copyright notice(s) and this permission notice appear in all copies of the Software and that both the above copyright notice(s) and this permission notice appear in supporting documentation. THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT OF THIRD PARTY RIGHTS. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COPYRIGHT HOLDER OR HOLDERS INCLUDED IN THIS NOTICE BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, OR ANY SPECIAL INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE. Except as contained in this notice, the name of a copyright holder shall not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other dealings in this Software without prior written authorization of the copyright holder. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All trademarks and registered trademarks mentioned herein are the property of their respective owners.

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