steel... gpl licensing...
[1/5] from: maximo:meteorstudios at: 28-Aug-2003 20:38
hi all, I am wondering what you all think of gpl licensing. Do some of you hate it, or have alternate open source or personal licenses which are less restrictive (or more, depending on your side of the fence?) yet legaly binding enough that you feel safe. I'm about to suggest making the STEEL project a gpl based tool with alternative licensing in certain circumstances (like commercial and contributor licenses). I just want to take a pulse of the community to see if I'll be hated for doing so... I'm not all sure about the gpl license itself, yet (I'll have to print it and read it again a few times, but it seemed quite fair when I read it last week...) some code in steel would be released with lesser gpl licensing too... (free to distribute but not to modify) what do you all think... since I'm using mail space... just a quick update on STEEL documentaion... I have to clear up a last minute problem I had with liquid-vid, building up a tutorial for it (which is why the updated site is STILL not online). I'll update the site and you'll see that it is much more functional. The small tutorial for liquid-vid should basically get you up and running with it in a matter of minutes. ... I think I'm going to cry, now... I've been hitting documentation, licensing and site layout almost daily for the last 2 1/2 weeks now, and its still not online ... 8.-( -MAx ------------- Steel project coordinator http://www.rebol.it/~steel
[2/5] from: andrew:martin:colenso:school at: 29-Aug-2003 14:22
> ...alternate open source or personal licenses which are less
restrictive (or more, depending on your side of the fence?) yet legaly binding enough that you feel safe. There's the Creative Commons licences which could be of interest? (I can't remember the URL.) Andrew J Martin Attendance Officer & Information Systems Trouble Shooter Colenso High School Arnold Street, Napier. Tel: 64-6-8310180 ext 826 Fax: 64-6-8336759 http://colenso.net/scripts/Wiki.r?AJM http://www.colenso.school.nz/ DISCLAIMER: Colenso High School and its Board of Trustees is not responsible (or legally liable) for materials distributed to or acquired from user e-mail accounts. You can report any misuse of an e-mail account to our ICT Manager and the complaint will be investigated. (Misuse can come in many forms, but can be viewed as any material sent/received that indicate or suggest pornography, unethical or illegal solicitation, racism, sexism, inappropriate language and/or other issues described in our Acceptable Use Policy.) All outgoing messages are certified virus-free by McAfee GroupShield Exchange 5.10.285.0 Phone: +64 6 843 5095 or Fax: +64 6 833 6759 or E-mail: [postmaster--colenso--school--nz]
[3/5] from: andreas:bolka:gmx at: 29-Aug-2003 9:46
Friday, August 29, 2003, 2:38:01 AM, Maxim wrote:
> I'm about to suggest making the STEEL project a gpl based tool with > alternative licensing in certain circumstances (like commercial and > contributor licenses).
Just a quick note re GPL and re-licensing on demand. One problem with this approach is, that as soon as someone contributes to the project and releases his contributions under the GPL you cannot just simply re-license those contributions anymore - if you use those contributions you're bound to the GPL-license yourself. So as long as you're the only one working on a project (e.g. Steel), dual licensing under GPL and on-demand licenses for commercial users are a perfectly fine thing. If some day someone contributes something vital to your project, and you want to incorporate that contribution into the "main" codebase, you're bound to the GPL use for those contributions. Or you'll have to try and get a custom license from the contributor. I prefer the Academic Free License for my open source projects - basically, the AFL is a non-viral license like the MIT/X11 licenses. Imho GPL licensing hinders REBOL's progress as it kind of blocks REBOL's subversive potential - no way to silently sneak a REBOL solution into your company, you must either buy a commercial license or break the GPL. -- Best regards, Andreas
[4/5] from: AJMartin::orcon::net::nz at: 30-Aug-2003 14:31
> There's the Creative Commons licences which could be of interest?
http://creativecommons.org Andrew J Martin ICQ: 26227169 http://www.rebol.it/Valley/ http://valley.orcon.net.nz/ http://Valley.150m.com/
[5/5] from: jvargas:whywire at: 30-Aug-2003 8:58
Hi Max. I personally like the MIT or BSD style licenses. But if what you want to ensure is that all contributions or modifications go back into steel the GLP or LGPL are the way to go. You will need some extra licensing for the commercial purposes then. Cheers, Jaime On Thursday, August 28, 2003, at 08:38 PM, Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch wrote: