RebCon 2008
[1/22] from: rebol-temecula:usa at: 11-Dec-2008 10:15
Dear Fellow Rebolers (of the mailist faction),
There has been some interest in a virtual gathering of Rebol developers and users. These
discussions have been taking place in the Rebol3 Altme World. I know there are many here
that do not regularly go there but nonetheless would be interested in participating.
The date and time that has been looked at is December 27th from 12:00 PM. How does that
sound to you?
There has been no decision on the technology to be used but you're input would be much
appreciated. We are also in need of presenters and/or desired topics.
To summarize, we are looking for:
An agreement on the time and date
Topics desired
Presentors
Ideas for technology to be used
Other
Thanks in advance,
James (aka James_Nak)
[2/22] from: nick::guitarz::org at: 11-Dec-2008 11:51
I have a hosted flash media server running (already in commercial
use), along with a variety of available videoconference/presentation
applications that may be useful in making the presentation. I'd be
willing to donate the use of that software, bandwidth, etc., if you'd
like help in executing the presentation.
- Nick Antonaccio
Quoting Rebol <rebol-temecula-usa.com>:
[3/22] from: rebol-temecula:usa at: 11-Dec-2008 13:39
Nick,
You are the man. That would be great.
James
[4/22] from: pwawood::gmail::com at: 12-Dec-2008 8:08
12:00 on 27th December 2008 in which time zone?
On 12 Dec 2008, at 02:15, Rebol wrote:
[5/22] from: rebol-temecula:usa at: 11-Dec-2008 17:16
Sorry. That is 12:00 Pacific Standard Time
Thanks,
James
[6/22] from: nick:guitarz at: 11-Dec-2008 18:08
Hi James,
If someone will email me personally, I can start putting together some
suggestions about how to organize and manage the presentation. I need
to get an idea of what sort of software components will be needed:
white board, text chat, file sharing, 1-to-many/many-to-many video
conferencing, etc... I'd also need to get a close estimate beforehand
of the number of people attending, to make sure I prepare enough
bandwidth and available connections for the live event (If you'd like,
I've got a little Rebol sign-up script that I use in my business to
let people sign up for events, you're welcome to use that if you'd
like, to help organize things). Please let me know whenever you get a
chance!
- Nick
Quoting Rebol <rebol-temecula-usa.com>:
[7/22] from: btiffin:rogers at: 11-Dec-2008 21:22
How would people feel about a vote for REBOL of the Year awards at the RebCon?
As far as I know, only Ashley is on the list of nominees, so it could well be
a short vote.
Cheers,
Brian
On December 11, 2008 09:08:24 pm Nick Antonaccio wrote:
[8/22] from: nick::guitarz::org at: 11-Dec-2008 20:55
James,
I've got 20 rooms set up already that I use to do live online music
lessons on a daily basis. I think the existing format of those rooms
could work very well as they stand. I'll create a special room just
for Rebol Devcon. I'd like to show you what I've got, to see if it'd
work for your needs. The audio/video conference software works on
PC/Mac/Linux, in any browser that has a fairly recent version of the
flash plugin installed (I believe version 6 onward will work - 8+ will
definitely work). Aside from flash, there's no installation required
to use the system - just go to the designated web page. It will allow
anyone in the room to take turns jumping onto the mic/camera to speak
(admin can ban unwanted users), there's a text chat, and I've got a
really simple way of sharing screen shots already installed in the
existing room setup. It should take only a minute or 2 to show
presenters how it works...
I've being doing daily live online music lessons as a part of my
commercial music lesson business for the past 4.5 years, and this
system is the most stable and simple that I'm aware of. It'll work
through just about any router/firewall configuration, and it's dead
simple to use - visitors just go the url, and they'll hear and see the
speaker. If they want to be seen on camera and speak, they just need
to have a web cam and microphone installed and working. If flash is
running in the browser, it'll work immediately, no download or
installs to do.
There's a video that I send to students which explains a little about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sx5qI0GWig
The online lesson page for my business, which has basic info about web
cams, microphones, and headphones, is here:
http://rockfactory.us/OnlineLessons.html
Please let me know if you have any questions :)
- Nick
Quoting Nick Antonaccio <nick-guitarz.org>:
[9/22] from: nick::guitarz::org at: 12-Dec-2008 10:09
For anyone interested in Devcon, I made a sign up form for 3
dates/times that I'm available to do group demo/prep work. Please add
your name if you'd like to meet at any of those times:
http://rockfactory.us/events/devcon.html
The meeting room will be http://rockfactory.us/rooms/room20 ,
user/pass will be devcon/devcon. I'll confirm the times/dates at the
above page, once a few people have signed up.
Quoting Nick Antonaccio <nick-guitarz.org>:
[10/22] from: gregg:pointillistic at: 12-Dec-2008 11:56
Thanks for doing this Nick! I hope I can make it.
-- Gregg
[11/22] from: nick:guitarz at: 12-Dec-2008 23:26
Hi Gregg :)
I'm looking forward to meeting and talking with everyone!
We've already got several attendees signed up for this coming
Wednesday, Dec 17th, 12pm EST, at
http://rockfactory.us/events/devcon.html , so I've marked that as a
confirmed event (not devcon - just a meeting to get familiar with the
presentation system). To speak with me live at that time, please have
headphones and a mic plugged in and ready to go on your computer. We
will be in room20 ( http://rockfactory.us/rooms/room20 ), and the
username/password will be devcon/devcon.
*****************
IMPORTANT:
Beforehand, to see how the page works, please watch the 10 minute
YouTube video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sx5qI0GWig (very
important if you're presenting, to avoid lots of little troubles!).
I've prepared some notes about other features and options that aren't
in the video, which I'll explain to everyone on Wednesday.
*****************
Please let me know if there are any questions, and please sign up at
http://rockfactory.us/events/devcon.html , if you'd like to attend any
of the preparatory meetings, or Devcon itself. I'd appreciate head
counts as soon as possible for the actual Devcon event.
Thanks!
- Nick
Quoting Gregg Irwin <gregg-pointillistic.com>:
[12/22] from: pwawood::gmail::com at: 13-Dec-2008 17:56
Hi Nick
Thanks for your tremendous offer to the community. Your set up sounds
fantastic.
I'd love to join in but it will be the middle of the night for me.
Regards
Peter
On 13 Dec 2008, at 15:26, Nick Antonaccio wrote:
[13/22] from: nick:guitarz at: 15-Dec-2008 22:00
Hi Peter,
It's a shame that we won't be able to speak with you at Wednesday's
prep meeting :( As far as I'm aware, the actual DevCon event
date/time has not been confirmed yet. December 27th, 3pm EST is what
was suggested - I prepared a sign up form for that time at
http://rockfactory.us/events/devcon.html . Does that approach a
better hour for you? If anyone else has input about the date/time,
please let it be known...
- Nick
Quoting Peter W A Wood <pwawood-gmail.com>:
[14/22] from: nick:guitarz at: 15-Dec-2008 22:01
Anyone who would like to speak with me or others on Wednesday should
have a microphone and headphones already attached to the computer.
Please use headphones instead of speakers to avoid echo (echo can be a
really big problem without headphones). To test your setup, including
your audio/video, please use this page:
http://rockfactory.us/videos/videogallery_viewer.html
Basic troubleshooting info is provided on that page. Please let me
know if you have any questions!
- Nick
Quoting Peter W A Wood <pwawood-gmail.com>:
[15/22] from: pwawood::gmail::com at: 16-Dec-2008 15:04
Hi Nick
> Does that approach a better hour for you?
Sadly not. I'm in Malaysia. 3 pm EST is 3 am for me. As there are only
three Rebols in this part of the world that I know of at the moment, I
don't think it would be worth adjusting the time to fit us in.
I hope all goes well.
Regards
Peter
[16/22] from: mat::plothatching::com at: 16-Dec-2008 23:18
2008/12/16 Peter W A Wood <pwawood-gmail.com>
> > Does that approach a better hour for you?
>
> Sadly not. I'm in Malaysia. 3 pm EST is 3 am for me. As there are only
> three Rebols in this part of the world that I know of at the moment, I
> don't think it would be worth adjusting the time to fit us in.
>
Four :) Time zone wise anyway.
Hello incidentally. My interest is re-piqued from Rebol 3. And the fact that
I appear to have written an entire web-based recruitment database thing for
work in Rebol in my spare time. I realised actually I'm a bit more serious
about Rebol than I thought I was. As the self-confessed world's worst
programmer, I'm hoping I can bring some valuable ineptitude to the table at
some point.
--
Regards,
Mat Bettinson
[17/22] from: nick::guitarz::org at: 16-Dec-2008 7:58
Peter,
Thanks for the feedback - I'll try to make the best recordings
possible, so that it can be watched later :)
Mat,
Like you, I've gotten many projects done with Rebol, where other tools
wasted necessary time and effort with unwieldy environment and complex
syntax... It's been my sense for a long time that Rebol is the best
solution I've seen for people who don't write code full time, and I
think it holds great potential to enable mainstream users to
experience similar practical productive and creative successes. If
only there was a way to help make Rebol more popular... :)
I'll suggest 4pm as an option for the DevCon time.
- Nick
Quoting Mat Bettinson <mat-plothatching.com>:
[18/22] from: nick::guitarz::org at: 17-Dec-2008 7:20
I'll see everyone at noon EST today at
http://rockfactory.us/rooms/room20 for the prep meeting. user/pass to
use is devcon/devcon. Please have your mic and headphones ready to go!
Quoting Nick Antonaccio <nick-guitarz.org>:
[19/22] from: pwawood::gmail::com at: 18-Dec-2008 10:03
Hi Matt
> Four :) Time zone wise anyway.
Welcome to our small club. Of the three, one is in Singapore, one in
Taiwan and I'm in Malaysia.
> Hello incidentally. My interest is re-piqued from Rebol 3. And the
> fact that
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> serious
> about Rebol than I thought I was.
Sounds great.
> As the self-confessed world's worst programmer, I'm hoping I can
> bring some valuable ineptitude to the table at
> some point.
I'm sure that I'm one of the many contenders for that title :-)
This list is a great place to ask questions. Many have been asked
before and, in case you don't know, you can spend many hours enjoying
them at http://www.rebol.org/ml-topic-index.r
Regards
Peter
[20/22] from: nick::guitarz::org at: 23-Dec-2008 0:17
Hi everyone :)
We need a final list of all presenters for Devcon 2008, along with an
estimate of the amount of time required for each presentation. If
you're intending to present, please let me know immediately.
If you want to watch, and haven't signed up yet, please do so at
http://rockfactory.us/events/devcon.html (it takes less than 5 seconds
- just add your name :)
Thanks!
- Nick
[21/22] from: nick::guitarz::org at: 27-Dec-2008 12:53
We are online live now at http://rockfactory.us/rooms/room22
user/pass is devcon/devcon. Please join us. Conversation is also
taking place in AltME. I can also be emailed personally if you're
having any problems...
[22/22] from: btiffin:rogers at: 28-Dec-2008 4:23
On December 27, 2008 03:53:03 pm Nick Antonaccio wrote:
> We are online live now at http://rockfactory.us/rooms/room22
> user/pass is devcon/devcon. Please join us. Conversation is also
> taking place in AltME. I can also be emailed personally if you're
> having any problems...
Many thanks to Nick for setting up an exciting afternoon of listening to
rebols speak and demonstrate tools. Here's to many more such events and
incentive towards more video communications (and incentive for face to face
meetups as well).
And if I remember the history correctly, James deserves a nice round of
applause for pushing the idea in the first place.
Cheers
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