Proposal: REBOL Documentation indexing system for newbies

Hello Rebolers, I finally thought of some structure to help index all the REBOL related Documentation available, be it to any existing format from paper to various electronic ones (HTML, XML, PDF, FLASH, script). And this includes the many sources too : Existing and to come paper and electronic books, tutorials and scripts, mailing list archives, past and current articles and discussions held into Forums, chats, wikis, vanilla, AltMe and IOS sites, and every other we could think of. I don't pretend to index all individual pieces but instead the many active and latent sources where REBOL is discussed in some way - trying to classify the many contributions by attributing them keywords and enabling some full text search over these keywords. Like is currently done for ML archives and scripts contained into the Official Library. But I will need some help for deciding the many categories to be finally used since they could also be used for the Library and any other REBOL related similar work. I tried at some of them in the enclosed documents but the list is neither definitive or exhaustive. It's work in progress. Try to think of it at it as being a cross indexing tool for the many following POVs that our community members share : As a newcomer that has questions to ask related to those general aspects : Where can I find help about something, Where to start, Where to get, What can be done with, How to download, install, configure, What if, How-to applied to each phase of the software development cycle (individual language construct learning oriented, task based oriented, problem-solving oriented, debug or test oriented, doc oreinted) and the most hard to answer Why does REBOL do that this way or How is REBOL doing this (can even relate to the internal mechanisms or structure of REBOL or some Dialect like Draw, VID and View - and many of them are missing or must be found the hard way by studying at the REBOL sources which already implies some advanced knowledge of the language constructs). As a more advanced programmer that has to develop some quality code to be shared with other community members or even external programmers when contracting, put code into some library, test it and ensure it to be reusable. Use all the toolkit the pros use : compression/decompression, encode/decode, loader, distributed programming and the like. May be some models are no more necessary when programmers arrived at this level come from another programming environment/language where they have already learned to use all these tools but some demo is nevertheless needed for others that didn't follow these usual tracks so they can't get any help from other sources than the REBOL World itself since they don't know any other language or existing tool and often don't even know the techniques that go hand in hand with these. As a teacher who wants to put together most of these questions and try to answer them with his own limited knowledge of the REBOL language with its internals and his own limitation as a programmer so he must also refer to some documented (or live as here) knowledge somewhere to put some script to work and help newcomers and intermediate programmers too. But this fact must also reflect into the indexing and documentation I plan to produce. Here is the first try I did to put together a global indexing system for all the doc about REBOL that a newbie can find anywhere - to be referred to a new source must be known to me and must acknowledge its content to be shared by others too. Enclosed are 2 files of my first general index for review and comment. The first is the .txt that was used by make-doc-pro to produce the other HTML output. Except if you don't think it's a good idea or don't like the complete proposed structure of the document - in the case which you can suggest another one, I'd like to receive annotations about individual sections only. Don't send back the complete .txt document since it would be too long for me to locate the part of the text which was modified by the submitter. After compiling all the data received - if any - I will send the revised document. It is possible that I go to the codeur.org forum to submit it there for review and discussion too since Didec and Jason offered me to help. However I wanted everybody to know what was our work basis. Feel free to suggest any add-on to any current section. We'll take every submission into account and we'll see if each one can be kept or not. We'll advise and explain any submitter when his submission can't be taken into account. Regards, Gerard -- HTML Attachment decoded to text by Ecartis -- -- File: REBOL-Doc-Structure.html @media screen { h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,p,a,br,li,td, .underline {font-family:Arial;text-align:justify} hr {text-align:center} p,table {margin-left: 10px;margin-right:10px} .defword {white-space:nowrap} ..deftable{border-style:none;vertical-align:top} .deftablefaq {border-style:solid;border-width:thin} .end {font-size:8pt} .example {margin-left:50px;margin-right:50px;border:2px solid;padding: 10px;background-color:#EEEEEE} .header {margin-left:50px;margin-right:50px;border:2px solid;padding: 10px;background-color:yellow} .indented {margin-left: 50px} .litable {text-align:left} .new {border-right: 10px solid; padding-right: 10px; font-family:Arial} .note {margin-left:50px;margin-right:50px;border:2px solid;padding: 10px;background-color:#FFCCCC} .tocindent {margin-left: 20px} ..top {font-size:8pt;text-align:right} .underline {text-decoration:underline} } @media print { h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,p,a,br,li, #underline {font-family:Arial;text-align:justify;orphans:5;widows:5} p,li,td {font-size:10pt} ul,ol {page-break-after:avoid;orphans:5;widows:5} }Plan for a suggested REBOL Documentation Structure Plan for a suggested REBOL Documentation Structure(Note: Much work is left tobe done for but this is a first try - Comments are welcome! Any omission isentirely my fault and please help to complete if this project seems to be useful to most of the REBOL community members to help any newcomer to better find his way through the vast REBOL related material pool. * The black bullets indicate work in progress that I planned to personally contribute to. * The white bullets are related to completed work that needs to be indexed somewhere to be easily found and usable by any newcomer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contents1. Getting started[1] 1.1 Where to search for Help about REBOL[2] 1.2 A Brief Tour of REBOL family[3] 1.3 Teach Yourself REBOL in a fixed number of Days[4] 2. The REBOL Language[5] 2.1 REBOL Language Manuals and published Books[6] 2.2 Beginning Student subset Language (Should complete the actual dictionary)[7] 2.3 Intermediate Student subset Language (Idem above)[8] 2.4 Advanced Student Language (Idem above)[9] 3. Learning REBOL[10] 3.1 How to Design Programs in REBOL - Teaching Modules[11] 3.2 Insider's view of REBOL[12] 4. Tools to support developers[13] 4.1 Tools Categories (to be refined)[14] 4.1.1 File and database management[15] 4.1.2 Debug support[16] 4.1.3 Library management[17] 4.1.4 Distributed programming[18] 4.1.5 Gui Management or Enhancement[19] 4.1.6 Graphics toolkit[20] 4.1.7 HTML - XHTML - XML - XML-RPC support[21] 4.1.8 Document Creation and Publishing support for multiple formats (HTML, PDF, FLASH)[22] 4.1.9 Learning aids creation tools[23] 4.1.10 Dialects (created to help programmers and users alike)[24] 5. Libraries[25] 5.1 Official REBOL script Library Manual[26] 5.2 Miscellaneous Libraries: Reference Manuals[27] 6. Unofficial but Useful Documentation[28] 6.1 REBOL Hosting available[29] 6.2 Articles and discussions from the Official Mailing List (ML)[30] 6.3 Forums List (non exhaustive)[31] 6.4 Other REBOL related resources indexes[32] 7. Shared REBOL apps - by categories (Many are missing)[33] 7.1 Documents Publishing Tools[34] 7.2 Idea Sharing and organizing tools[35] 7.3 Other apps spreaded that must be indexed and classified[36] 1. Getting started1.1 Where to search for Help about REBOL * Some hints to guide the newcomer to the REBOL world and its vast documentation 1.2 A Brief Tour of REBOL family * Comparative presentation of each family member and reasons to select it(See REBOL site) * The "Ten steps" proposed by Carl on the OFFICIAL REBOL site http://www.rebol.com 1.3 Teach Yourself REBOL in a fixed number of Days * This could be the Tutorial I'm working on now (in Easy-vid format) Content yet to be refined before submission but will promote a REBOL based problem solving approach Will present many small tasks to be done using REBOLas a programming tool Will also emphasize some classical methodology forstructured analysis, design (algorithms), coding, testing and debugging techniques using REBOL's own tools and style guide. Some help in the form of knowledge coming from the unified REBOL community members will be requested, welcomed and sometimes necessary for me to complete this project...[ back to top[37] ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. The REBOL Language2.1 REBOL Language Manuals and published Books * Refer to the many manuals for - Core, View &PRO, IOS, Command , SDK - See the official REBOL site http://www.rebol.com (Core User manual, Language Dictionary, etc...) * The published books available to help starters and advanced programmerstoo! 2.2 Beginning Student subset Language (Should complete the actual dictionary) * A Illustrated minimalist list of REBOL words 2.3 Intermediate Student subset Language (Idem above) * An Illustrated enriched list of REBOL words 2.4 Advanced Student Language (Idem above) * An Illustrated more elaborate list of REBOL words [ back to top[38] ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Learning REBOL3.1 How to Design Programs in REBOL - Teaching Modules * Guidelines to help newcomers to programming develop their scripts * Usage-vid script by Cybarite for /View programming * Various tutorials about Parse and the many Dialects created by community members 3.2 Insider's view of REBOL * Here could be concentrated many articles from REBOL Zine and * from other contributors as to how REBOL do some of its inside work [ back to top[39] ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Tools to support developers4.1 Tools Categories (to be refined)4.1.1 File and database management * File Manager (Gabriele Santilli) * Other File Managers (See REBOL.ORG Library) * ODBC socket server (REBOLFRANCE) * MySQL Protocol (DocKimbel) * DyBase Oriented Object Database (Konstantin Knizhnik) * RebDB - Pseudo-Relational Database (Ashley Trüter) * Flat Database (See REBOL.ORG Library and The Official Book) Other entries to be put here4.1.2 Debug support * Anamonitor (Romano Paolo Tenca) Other tools to be added here4.1.3 Library management * Slim (Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch) * Many Loaders Other stuff to be added here4.1.4 Distributed programming * Rugby (Marteen Koopmans) * eREBOL (ASP and JSP like) Other entries to be put here4.1.5 Gui Management or Enhancement * Glass Library (Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch) 4.1.6 Graphics toolkit * Draw Dialect (Cyphre) Many other contributions to be added here4.1.7 HTML - XHTML - XML - XML-RPC support * ML (Andrew J. MArtin) * Names of the many other scripts contributed and their authors 4.1.8 Document Creation and Publishing support for multiple formats (HTML, PDF, FLASH) * Make-doc (Carl Sassenrath) * Make-doc-pro (Robert Muench) * Flash dialect (Oldes) * Easy-VID (Carl Sassenrath) 4.1.9 Learning aids creation tools * Make-doc-pro (Robert Muench) * vid-usage (Cybarite) * easy-vid (CArl Sassenrath) * Vanilla (Christian Langreiter &al) Others to be added here4.1.10 Dialects (created to help programmers and usersalike) * ML (Andrew J. Martin) Others to be added here[ back to top[40] ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Libraries5.1 Official REBOL script Library Manual * Doc already available from REBOL.org for the Librarian and the Library Data Services * Analysis of some selected scripts * Additional DOC to be added for selected scripts: Usage, GOAL description, High Level Design and sample data for testing * May be we can expect some additional scripts sharing from the many individual REB sites 5.2 Miscellaneous Libraries: Reference Manuals * Slim (Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch) * Other librarians available - ? * Glass (Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch) * High Level functions (Ladislav Mecir) Others to be shared and added here[ back to top[41] ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Unofficial but UsefulDocumentation6.1 REBOL Hosting available * Gabriele's Hosting company Others to be added here6.2 Articles and discussions from the Official MailingList (ML) * ML archives contents for consulting and searching * REBOL Zine * REBOLForces * Codeconscious web site * Compkarori web site * Individual contributors articles : Ladislav, Marteen, Jeff, Gregg, Chris and others... Others to be added here6.3 Forums List (non exhaustive) * REBOLFRANCE - codeur.org * REBOLTALK Others to be added here6.4 Other REBOL related resources indexes * DMOZ (the Open Directory Project) * REBOLFRANCE Others to be added here[ back to top[42] ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Shared REBOL apps - by categories (Many are missing)7.1 Documents Publishing Tools * make-doc-pro * make-doc * Online make-doc anywhere (by Christopher Ross-Gill) Others to be added here7.2 Idea Sharing and organizing tools * Vanilla * REBOL Wikis Others to be added here7.3 Other apps spreaded that must be indexed and classified * Graphical Toolkits * REBOL Application Framework (RFM) Others to be added here[ back to top[43] ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Document formatter copyright Robert M. M=FCnch[44]. All Rights Reserved. XHTML 1.0 Transitional formatted with Make-Doc-Pro Version:1.0.8 on 2-Feb-2004 at 23:26:30 --- Links --- 1 #sect1 2 #sect1.1 3 #sect1.2 4 #sect1.3 5 #sect2 6 #sect2.1 7 #sect2.2 8 #sect2.3 9 #sect2.4 10 #sect3 11 #sect3.1 12 #sect3.2 13 #sect4 14 #sect4.1 15 #sect4.1.1 16 #sect4.1.2 17 #sect4.1.3 18 #sect4.1.4 19 #sect4.1.5 20 #sect4.1.6 21 #sect4.1.7 22 #sect4.1.8 23 #sect4.1.9 24 #sect4.1.10 25 #sect5 26 #sect5.1 27 #sect5.2 28 #sect6 29 #sect6.1 30 #sect6.2 31 #sect6.3 32 #sect6.4 33 #sect7 34 #sect7.1 35 #sect7.2 36 #sect7.3 37 #top 38 #top 39 #top 40 #top 41 #top 42 #top 43 #top 44 http://www.robertmuench.de -- Attached file included as plaintext by Ecartis -- -- File: REBOL-Doc-Structure.txt Plan for a suggested REBOL Documentation Structure (Note: Much work is left to be done for but this is a first try - Comments are welcome! Any omission is entirely my fault and please help to complete if this project seems to be useful to most of the REBOL community members to help any newcomer to better find his way through the vast REBOL related material pool. **The black bullets indicate work in progress that I planned to personally contribute to. **The white bullets are related to completed work that needs to be indexed somewhere to be easily found and usable by any newcomer. =toc ===Getting started ---Where to search for Help about REBOL ** Some hints to guide the newcomer to the REBOL world and its vast documentation ---A Brief Tour of REBOL family **Comparative presentation of each family member and reasons to select it (See REBOL site) **The "Ten steps" proposed by Carl on the OFFICIAL REBOL site http://www.rebol.com ---Teach Yourself REBOL in a fixed number of Days * This could be the Tutorial I'm working on now (in Easy-vid format) Content yet to be refined before submission but will promote a REBOL based problem solving approach Will present many small tasks to be done using REBOL as a programming tool Will also emphasize some classical methodology for structured analysis, design (algorithms), coding, testing and debugging techniques using REBOL's own tools and style guide. Some help in the form of knowledge coming from the unified REBOL community members will be requested, welcomed and sometimes necessary for me to complete this project... ===The REBOL Language ---REBOL Language Manuals and published Books **Refer to the many manuals for - Core, View & PRO, IOS, Command , SDK - See the official REBOL site http://www.rebol.com (Core User manual, Language Dictionary, etc...) **The published books available to help starters and advanced programmers too! ---Beginning Student subset Language (Should complete the actual dictionary) * A Illustrated minimalist list of REBOL words ---Intermediate Student subset Language (Idem above) * An Illustrated enriched list of REBOL words ---Advanced Student Language (Idem above) * An Illustrated more elaborate list of REBOL words ===Learning REBOL ---How to Design Programs in REBOL - Teaching Modules * Guidelines to help newcomers to programming develop their scripts **Usage-vid script by Cybarite for /View programming **Various tutorials about Parse and the many Dialects created by community members ---Insider's view of REBOL **Here could be concentrated many articles from REBOL Zine and **from other contributors as to how REBOL do some of its inside work ===Tools to support developers ---Tools Categories (to be refined) +++File and database management **File Manager (Gabriele Santilli) **Other File Managers (See REBOL.ORG Library) **ODBC socket server (REBOLFRANCE) **MySQL Protocol (DocKimbel) **DyBase Oriented Object Database (Konstantin Knizhnik) **RebDB - Pseudo-Relational Database (Ashley Tr=FCter) **Flat Database (See REBOL.ORG Library and The Official Book) Other entries to be put here +++Debug support **Anamonitor (Romano Paolo Tenca) Other tools to be added here +++Library management **Slim (Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch) **Many Loaders Other stuff to be added here +++Distributed programming **Rugby (Marteen Koopmans) **eREBOL (ASP and JSP like) Other entries to be put here +++Gui Management or Enhancement **Glass Library (Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch) +++Graphics toolkit **Draw Dialect (Cyphre) Many other contributions to be added here +++HTML - XHTML - XML - XML-RPC support **ML (Andrew J. MArtin) **Names of the many other scripts contributed and their authors +++Document Creation and Publishing support for multiple formats (HTML, PDF, FLASH) **Make-doc (Carl Sassenrath) **Make-doc-pro (Robert Muench) **Flash dialect (Oldes) **Easy-VID (Carl Sassenrath) +++Learning aids creation tools **Make-doc-pro (Robert Muench) **vid-usage (Cybarite) **easy-vid (CArl Sassenrath) **Vanilla (Christian Langreiter & al) Others to be added here +++Dialects (created to help programmers and users alike) **ML (Andrew J. Martin) Others to be added here ===Libraries ---Official REBOL script Library Manual **Doc already available from REBOL.org for the Librarian and the Library Data Services * Analysis of some selected scripts * Additional DOC to be added for selected scripts: Usage, GOAL description, High Level Design and sample data for testing **May be we can expect some additional scripts sharing from the many individual REB sites ---Miscellaneous Libraries: Reference Manuals **Slim (Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch) **Other librarians available - ? **Glass (Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch) **High Level functions (Ladislav Mecir) Others to be shared and added here ===Unofficial but Useful Documentation ---REBOL Hosting available **Gabriele's Hosting company Others to be added here ---Articles and discussions from the Official Mailing List (ML) **ML archives contents for consulting and searching **REBOL Zine **REBOLForces **Codeconscious web site **Compkarori web site **Individual contributors articles : Ladislav, Marteen, Jeff, Gregg, Chris and others... Others to be added here ---Forums List (non exhaustive) **REBOLFRANCE - codeur.org **REBOLTALK Others to be added here ---Other REBOL related resources indexes **DMOZ (the Open Directory Project) **REBOLFRANCE Others to be added here ===Shared REBOL apps - by categories (Many are missing) ---Documents Publishing Tools **make-doc-pro **make-doc **Online make-doc anywhere (by Christopher Ross-Gill) Others to be added here ---Idea Sharing and organizing tools **Vanilla **REBOL Wikis Others to be added here ---Other apps spreaded that must be indexed and classified **Graphical Toolkits **REBOL Application Framework (RFM) Others to be added here

Hi Gerard, Thanks for all the effort you're putting into this. I hope to have time...before too long, to contribute to this project as well, from the REBOL.org side. -- Gregg

Hi Gerard

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Hi Jason, Gregg and Maxim. Thank you for your specific answers, I will request for help and accept contributions as well when it will be needed, later in the project. For the moment I simply want some ML members to read and say what they think about the content of the proposed indexing system - in view of helping any newbie to find its way amongst the vast enough already exixting REBOL documentation. May be some parts may seem to be useless, redundant or misleading. For example the distinction to be done betwwen the Tools and the Library - since some scripts seem to fit well into both. Other items may seem to miss. Don't hesitate to add. But don't forget that until you I feed you with the future planned TOC and content of my learning tools, many items may leave you with the idea that not everything would be covered. Note also that in a far future I also plan to offer advanced learning material to support programmers that need this kind of material if time and need for this are always present. It will also be for my own learning since this could help to decode the inside of many advanced scripts using such concepts as DYNAMIC DATA STRUCTURES as used in many advanced CS text books and as supported in part by REBOL with its own list and block data structures. This week i'll also work about the TOC and try to well plan the gradual advance needed for the learning material I want to create in addition to all what already exists here and elsewhere about REBOL learning. This should will be submitted for review and comment before I begin the real work about content. For sure I will now continue my work using French since it will be easier and shorter to me and I will ask Maxim and/or Jason and DidierC to help review and translate some parts of my written work. A last word to Jason about the the Web site and the easy-vid.r format conversion you offered. In fact at this time I suggest that we use some Web space on your server to start some informal showcase to display the incremental steps of the proposed TOC when it is revised and updated - but at end I plan to ask Rebol.org to display this TOC and REBOL.COM to add some pointer to it if Carl agrees to do so. For the easy-vid.r conversion, I really don't see the urgency or even the true usefulness of this step at this moment since this would not be easily viewable with such long titles in the left column - some horizontal scroll bar is needed before. May be the titles must be shortened instead. If you want to work on this you're welcome. But a last question about the way you suggest to use it : If some reader downloads the TOC in easy-vid format, what will be the next step for him? If downloading any of the other subsequent parts is your way then this is feasible now but your content will have to be revised soon - so I personally wait until the next revision if any before doing so. If this can be of some help to you I can announce that I already began to hack the easy-vid script a bit as to let it become 2 new derived apps : 1- an easy-VID generator which when coupled with some .txt file content - much as the actual make-doc-pro - could automatically replace the actual easy-VID fixed content and leave its easy-VID coating with its display, navigation and execution functionalities - not as big deal but this could permit to easily create from a single .txt entry a dual output simply by switching from a make-doc generated HTML output to an easy-VID script format. Actually this job must be done manually. Not a difficult one but one that could be simplified. This new tool would change its name as the "make-easy-VID" application to reflect its new nature when related to other make-doc family members. Some restrictions apply but nevertheless they bear strong likeness. 2- A new version of the current easy-VID as been created with 2 new features : a) a "Content linking" new mark-up has been added and implemented. So when this mark-up is encountered in the actual Content a query to start a new easy-VID copy with its own "Content " is executed and the new easy-VID replaces the current one. ("#->" Mark-up instead of =URL may be substituted but may mislead) b) A second mark-up to add some additional information taken from a .txt file has also been added trying to simulate in some way an external URL link. This could be used for example to display in its own window the additional text when the BOLD ITALIC UNDERLINE line is clicked - I was not able to let the "anchored" word inside a current paragraph for display with some different STYLE than the rest and I was not able to keep it with the rest if some independent mouse click operation was to be used. (## mark-up) This seems to be a limitation to the actual styles available inside View. Some RTF like style would help here for the display part but the hyperlinking seems to be another subtle part to implement ... if it is not done yet. When this will be implemented (View 2.0 may be ?) there will not be a lot of difference between the many make-doc family members as to the way the output could be used - that is with real hyperlinks for easy-VID documents and for make-doc-pro HTML-PDF documents. At least this is on an old wish list I saw in the past about View and I finally know why ... Word processing too is a potential client IIRC !!! My 2 modifs are almost ready to be used but some adjustments are needed and yet to be done. And I must also add them to the VID-usage enriched version of easy-VID. This is all for now, Regards, Gerard

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 01:09:48 -0500, Gerard Cote <[gerardcote--sympatico--ca]> wrote:

> For sure I will now continue my work using French since it will be easier > and shorter to me and I will ask Maxim and/or Jason and DidierC to help > review and translate some parts of my written work.

> 1- an easy-VID generator which when coupled with some .txt file content > - much as the actual make-doc-pro - could automatically replace the > output simply by switching from a make-doc generated HTML output to an > easy-VID script format.

Hi Robert,

> > For sure I will now continue my work using French since it will be easier > > and shorter to me and I will ask Maxim and/or Jason and DidierC to help > > review and translate some parts of my written work. > > Hi, I would vote for english as otherwise a lot of us will be locked out > and why do all the work twice? >

> > 1- an easy-VID generator which when coupled with some .txt file content > > - much as the actual make-doc-pro - could automatically replace the > working together with me on this part? Robert > --

Hi List, After a fresh look at the actual DOC indexing system on the Official Web site I went to the conclusion that most of the existing material I planned to re-index is already indexed there. Most of the known REBOL links have also been added recently to the displayed list. So I'll simply continue by contributing some of the missing parts as desctibed in my proposal and ask Carl to put some links to what will be considered as useful when delivered exactly as is done now. But nevertheless there are definitely some material that could be added to help starters and I'll continue to help fill this gap as much as I can with the help of the many volunteers that have recently put up their hand over their head ... but more and more I work with REBOL I think I always need support for the most advanced features I discover and that are left unexplained - in the official ways at least. The many discussions held over the many comm channels continue to deliver the greatest support that exists for now - simply hope it will continue to deliver such a useful help for a long time to come ... since we'll never be able to encapsulate all this knowledge in the form of a static display ! But logs and archives search is a good way to cope with as is currently done by Carl, Graham and REBOL.org team. Thanks everybody since this is no small task - since recurrent... Regards, Gerard

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 14:29:21 -0500, Gerard Cote <[gerardcote--sympatico--ca]> wrote:

> But I can ensure you Robert that nobody will be left aside during the > process - since this is firstly done for the whole > international REBOL community. I simply favor French as my own support > tool since it will be easier to me.

> I can send you what I already did about easy-vid.r and we could help > each other to better understand what is needed and how it can > be done.

> In fact I also looked back at the way you're emitting your HTML related > tags inside make-doc-pro. Since in your case the > output can be produced for the Internet browser to manage the display > you don't have to add overhead to the produced document as to > support navigational features like is the case in the easy-VID or > VID-usage products.

> When are you ready to start with ?

> May be we can start working without any further consideration and we'll > simply replace any additional or updated modules when > completed. At least it would become feasible to create self-running > REBOL Lessons without having to dig inside each time to replace > manually any old content by a new one.