[REBOL] Re: IOS account (was RE: Re: Is this a bug ([5 <])?)
From: rebol-list2:seznam:cz at: 18-Nov-2002 13:47
Friday, November 15, 2002, 4:54:21 AM, you wrote:
PK> What email? There would be no email at all. Have you seen IOS working?
PK> It is like development "in Rebol", "for Rebol". You can create custom
PK> reblets, which help you to let project going, and better organised. No
PK> email based system can replace it easily. And as for email - I work on 2
PK> - 3 machines. When I download my email on one of them, it is not
PK> available on another ones. IOS is different - it simply syncs - so where
PK> you go ... your data go with you ...
PK> Look, we are slowly but working on VID update. It would NEVER be
PK> finished by email way. We already exchanged some 3000 msgs in conference
PK> and as for me, at least 5000 messages in messenger. You need your
PK> answers fast, not waiting for email to arrive. You would have to use IRC
PK> or other kind of IM and then - where is your integration?
PK> As I said - one of the drawbacks of IOS is its scalability. If it would
PK> handle hundreds of active users rather than tens, it would be even
PK> cooler experience ....
Please, don't take this post as a serious arguing but....
...I hope there still will be email. I've seen IOS working and I have
to say that there are still weak parts of it. Just one small
example: there are two apps called "Expert" and "VID-Expert".
In the "Expert" app there are 6 questions none of them is
answered. (my last question was if someone is reading these
questions and I'm sure that nobody does). On 23.8.2002 I needed
help with the alpha image so I asked in the "VID-Expert" app and there is
still no answer, the same question was sent to ML on 14.11.2002 at
4:44PM the first reply on ML was (from you:) at 7:00PM and since
now I have 10 replies of this thread in my inbox! My conclusion is
that the IOS "Expert" apps are useless!
I know that Carl must be quiet busy so I don't try to spam him by
IOS messenger. Just for the first time, when I wanted to know his
opinion about the "Invalid ..." errors on 19.Aug. but I've no
answer yet:( again
The IOS conference app. has no threading so it's just a chat
with several rooms (one of them is named "chat") not a conference
in the way how discussion boards works.
Your example of no possibility to work with emails on more then
one computer is not correct as well, because if you set your email
client not to delete messages on the email server, your emails will be
available on all computers with access to the email server.
IOS uses nice syncs so all data are updated when you connect, but that has
weak point as well because if you would have too many active IOS
users, the ammount of data may be quite large (what if someone adds
one 100MB file to IOS? This file will be downloaded by all IOS
users - if there is no security check to prevent downloads of large files)
For most IOS apps you have to be connected to the IOS server to do
something. So if I want to send new bug report, I've no choice to
write it offline etc. (but that's probably ok because I'm just a
dialup looser without creditcards; rich clients probably have
their good connections)
And the VID project, maybe if cyphre would send some of his styles
to ML some of them would be already in use. I know that it's
important to make standarts but to have more solutions for one
thing is much more better than none. Only real usage may highlight
which of the solutions is the best.
I like Rebol, and I like IOS, hope some of these comments may
help to make IOS better, but I like ML as well and the main reason
is that it's free for everybody, not just for a small community.
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