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[REBOL] Re: REBOL DOC for teaching - Some criteria I would like to share before applying

From: gerardcote:sympatico:ca at: 26-Jan-2004 19:27

Hi Jason, Gregg and Arie, Thanks for your support. In fact I like the idea of getting some interactivity for viewing/demoing using some animation but I also agree with the fact that AVI are too weighty for the Job I plan. I also - a couple of years ago when I began to look at /View - began to study the way Carl did his presentation but I found the way some figures were constructed is too much complicated for such a few gain. May be I will reconsider a second try at this approach since I would prefer to get anything done using REBOL. However for the moment I began to structure my TOC and even wrote some preliminary text - in French since I think a lot better in my native language than I even write in English - using the Make-DOC-PRO format for getting quick rendering of the output in a somewhat interesting dressing. And all of this without much effort - thanks to Carl and Robert for this. Eventually I will get back and see if things have evolved but for the moment I plan to stand firm on my position. When a sufficient amount of material will have be written, tried and tested then I'll see for what is the best tool to adopt for getting the tutorial more attractive. In all cases it could not be worse than now - if I remember. But I also remember of some nice product named ScreenCam that was signed by Lotus and designed to run on old Windows machines. Since I already got it in the past I will probably be able to get it reinstalled and try it again just to see how much space it will occupy. In all cases, continue to explore, test and feed me with your ideas. Already we could try each one on his side to drive some tests running some small experiment in an interactive way so that we can show to the user some kind of animation of all the execution process - seen from the outside - with variable speed and possibility to stop too. For example let's see if we could simulate - or let a real small app running - that can be completely driven by the user ( in a single direction for that time - forward only) and which would ask some input data (may be a choice amongst many data options would be nice too) and display some intermediate results (pre-planned by the creator) or at least the final results. In fact it's almost a symbolic debugger for straight programs, that is small programs that don't use too much dynamic behaviour - to begin with. And this could be driven by single mouse clicks or keyboard letters as the following may be: R - Run with almost normal speed in forward direction (From begin to end) R/S - to single step - and the user would be abel to define what a step is - 1 or many lines, a loop, a breakpoint... R/R - Run in reverse direction (Would be useful to SINGLE step backward, display intermediate contents, enter corrections and restart forward or backward) R/T - Run with another input data choice amongst suggested ones (Don't forget that it's only canned for display - no real user interaction permitted) R/I - Run with some internals displayed (Use the M command to indicate which Word(s) to use for) M - To mark what content is to be displayed when the run is stopped or when script is exhausted. May be we'll come to see a very surprising result at the end. In fact when I came to REBOL it was precisely to be able to create this kind of tool - using Parse and creating my own FRENCH teaching language but for now I am far from my goal. At least it is fun and I learn a lot of material not even from my REBOL related readings but also from my exchange with you all. I must recognize that having no real foundation in Computer Science other than my readings I somewhat miss some parts of the advanced dialogs but I don't give up yet ... now that my health really seems to feel better ! I'm like a brand new Gerard reassembled from old pieces ;-) Regards, Gerard