[REBOL] Re: dot reb <=> dot net (was .reb)
From: rgaither:triad:rr at: 18-Aug-2001 17:17
>The problem to me always seems that most things are already done,
>so you can only try to improve on that. For example Groove.
Very true that things like Groove and Napster have already been
done. Still, sometimes it is the "way" it gets done that is the really
important part. For example I think Groove is windows only, very
, and resource intensive - the opposite of any REBOL based
>A P2P db system could be ground-breaking, I think. With Rugby
>the essential middleware is there to move things around, so it is only
Perhaps groundbreaking in the "framework" layer but it isn't an
application in itself. It would be a huge help in building the
LDC style applications though.
>The obvious drawback in a pure P2P DB system is that you may loose
>information when nodes go down. If you do a thing like Groove or Freenet
This is true just as with any internet resource. Even the View desktop has
to deal with this possibility. That layer of finding/publishing resources or managing
a local cache of data, perhaps providing mirroring, and such are the parts the
developer would rather not have to write. Build those layers and
persistence handling on top of Rugby and look out!
>The other thing I'd like to do is pure Dot Reb:
>- Federated Rugby services a la SOAP / UDDI, but now easy
>- RIDE: The Rebol IDE
My big pet project is a "knowledgebase" application that provides the
framework and UI to manage loosely structured data in a distributed
fashion. (see the M-Lore reb site for a lengthy rambling spec :-))
Another project idea I've had and others have mentioned is an
environment to provide online training. This is another application
that needs a killer internet version. Most of the web based ones
are slow and limited in capabilities. It is time to get out of the "browser"
limited mode and start thinking different levels of interaction.
>As for XML, somebody out here did some improved tools for parsing (?)
I know a couple have floated by but I haven't had time to
try them out. Part of my point is that as a group this list and
the REB resources are very feature rich areas to search through.
>> >Other things I can do starting next month are:
>> >- a P2P database storage system
>> >- any P2P tool (Groove, napster,...)
>> >What does my user base wants me to do? ;-)
>> As a soon to be user any of the above sounds great! :-)
>> A DB system, a groove like tool are tops on my
>> own list of things I'd like to have. I would add a
>> core set of "extensions" that let us do XML better
>> as well.
>> There is a great wealth of individual projects on this
>> list and on the REB that should be considered as
>> well at least for starting points. Here are some that
>> come to mind immediately but there are many more
>> to consider as well -
>> 1. Etienne's Virtual Office
>> 2. Gabriele's PDF-Maker
>> 3. Graham's SOAP work
>> 4. Sean & Carl's RIM
>> >Still: anyone interested?
>> Yes, very much so.
>> I have a server machine sitting next to me
>> that needs some work to get on the net but
>> once that is done I think I could offer some
>> service hosting as well.
>> Thanks, Rod.
>> Rod Gaither
>> Oak Ridge, NC - USA
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