[REBOL] Re: DLL Hell = Rebol library script version
From: nitsch-lists:netcologne at: 11-Nov-2003 21:30
Am Dienstag, 11. November 2003 19:11 schrieb Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch:
> I find it funny that there is so much differing opinions on this topic.
>
> :-D which makes it lively a topic/list to follow and discuss :-)
>
> python is built over a library standard and it is all the better for it.
> It allows a large group of developpers to contribute to the package
> completely transparently. I'M not saying I like python itself, only that I
> recognize how its modules ideology has helped it.
>
> There are things missing in its library methods which do make it a little
> dangerous to use to share code, but if it gets placed into the core
> distribution, it becomes safe cause its api has to get "locked".
>
In our case that would be, its in rebol-runtime. Fortunally or not, rebols
have decided Carl defines the /core.
Today with RT low on manpower.
Its a bit tricky to decide if something is not included because of manpower or
because it dilutes the core.
> I DO think that python has TOO many libraries and that a greater effort at
> reducing code duplication and mismatch should have been done for the core
> distribution. One obvious and basic problem is the fact that there are
> string functions AND string methods, but NOT ALL methods have function
> equivalents, which is a bad design IMHO. I'm always wondering if such and
> such an operation is a method or a function.... :-(
>
diluting is a good word, specially in connection with liquid, no? ;)
> I'm trying to learn from other's mistake (but can't say I'm an all knowing
> guru ;-).
>
> Like I said, I'll be releasing more information with more specific details
> of what I want to provide as a linkable library system. Judgment by trial.
> ;-)
>
> The loader's essential functionality is working on my system.
>
Another point about a loader is, Rebol has already one. Its called IOS.
Unfortunally its soo expensive.
so
+ building such stuff is fun
+ its a lot cheaper
- makes competition to RT based on its own products?
> I need to work on a real setup/install application which actually can look
> up your setup. this would handler both core and vid setups (text or vid
> install :-)
If its for fun, i am all for it. But you talk a lot about setting standards.
And rebol-standards should be RT's decision IMHO.
-Volker
